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It feel like we’re losing to Google, day by day. They aren’t killing AOSP directly, but they are making it useless step by step.

Now it’s Google Play Services, Play Integrity checks, installation source checks… more and more apps just refuse to run without GMS. Banking apps? Most of them don’t work. And it’s only getting worse. I run vanilla AOSP on my main profile, no Play Services. I keep GMS only in my work profile for the apps that absolutely need it. But now even some regular apps that don't need any play services won’t work on my main profile anymore. They simply block your from running , like le chat.

Maps is google's most important app there is no way to run without play services. Sure we can use webview or gmaps wv, but they don't provide turn-by-turn directions. Earlier maps used to work without play services, but two years ago, an update stopped it from working. Now that old version is out of date and no longer works.

Google is slowly making GMS very important to run. The problem with GMS is they require to run as system app and has to have all the permissions by default.

Hope EU puts pressure to make google allow apps to run independently without GMS or atleast install them as user apps(like graphene os sandboxed play services).

If we keep going on like this, AOSP can only run fdroid apps in the future.

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[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 3 days ago (13 children)

I highly reccomend comaps which has turn-by-turn directions and doesn't require Google services.

[–] hyacin@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Wow, supports Android Auto too!

Edit: Says it supports Android Auto, to be clear - not tested by me, and issue(s) reported below.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You sure about this? I haven't been able to get it, or any other maps app on GrapheneOS, to play nice with Android Auto.

[–] hyacin@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not at all, no! Just going off the support article that says it does. Only just installed it, will try it out with my car this weekend at the latest.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Please respond back if you can get it to work, navigation has always been a big sticking point with using GrapheneOS.

[–] hyacin@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Will do, I'm also running stock on a Find N5 though, so not apples to apples with Graphene by any means.

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