Mamdani has nothing to gain by using stronger language than he already has. He just needs to apply China’s “do nothing, win” strategy because all of the opposition is doing the work for him.

I don’t mean he should compromise on principles but I think you are greatly exaggerating the significance of this statement. No one on HB is expecting this guy to be Lenin 2.0, that gets repeated every day. Mamdani appears to be a clear win for the left, not a total victory, but damn y’all are so used to losing that you forgot how to win

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

great another example of what i said in another thread, literally cant make the single lightest bit of criticism about him on the internet rn, i havent even claimed that this is of any actual significance anywhere , it's just a very mild criticsm that i dont think socialists should be putting out statements that sound like they were written by a blue maga dem, and instead you're coming in and claiming that i think that mamdani's victory isnt a win for a left

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

“HB is libbing out” isn’t critique directed at Zohran. It’s wrecker behavior whether you intended that or not (I truly don’t think you did). Vague insults that no one can meaningfully engage with (you don’t seem to want to further discuss the specific points of the post beyond it feeling lib) isn’t adding anything, it’s harmful actually.

I don’t feel negatively toward you individually and don’t want this to draw out into a back and forth, so I’ll leave it alone

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

the criticism i have of people on hb (and the rest of the internet this isnt remoltely a hb only problem) isnt that i think people think he's lenin 2.0, it's that if you give criticisms of him no matter how gentle, people come in and "crashout", they immediately assume you're calling him a lib like AOC, they will act as if you said things you didnt actually say, etc etc etc. In particular i said this was an example of "libbing out" because i thought it was quite clear what the top level comment was saying and people were acting like they were saying something really weird/stupid when the statement is filled with language that is used to performatively protest against trump. by blue maga dems. i guess i could just start copy pasting shit and just start arguing with 4 people at once but imo that is actual wrecker behavior plus not worth my time so i just left a generic comment summarizing their comments as "libbing out" to let the top level user know that i thought everyone responding to make fun of them was "libbing out"