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[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 2 days ago (13 children)

“Attack on democracy”, “authoritarian”, “MAGA Republicans”, “division”, “distraction”

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

man HB is libbing out, this is identical to what any generic democrat would put out and you're getting attacked for pointing that out

before someone comes in and inserts words in my mouth no im not saying he should be putting death to in amerikkka in all caps or something like that but idk, put something that actually sounds like a socialist wrote it, power of the people, the masses, literally anything to separate yourself from a bluemaga dem

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mamdani has nothing to gain by using stronger language than he already has. He just needs to apply China’s “do nothing, win” strategy because all of the opposition is doing the work for him.

I don’t mean he should compromise on principles but I think you are greatly exaggerating the significance of this statement. No one on HB is expecting this guy to be Lenin 2.0, that gets repeated every day. Mamdani appears to be a clear win for the left, not a total victory, but damn y’all are so used to losing that you forgot how to win

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

great another example of what i said in another thread, literally cant make the single lightest bit of criticism about him on the internet rn, i havent even claimed that this is of any actual significance anywhere , it's just a very mild criticsm that i dont think socialists should be putting out statements that sound like they were written by a blue maga dem, and instead you're coming in and claiming that i think that mamdani's victory isnt a win for a left

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“HB is libbing out” isn’t critique directed at Zohran. It’s wrecker behavior whether you intended that or not (I truly don’t think you did). Vague insults that no one can meaningfully engage with (you don’t seem to want to further discuss the specific points of the post beyond it feeling lib) isn’t adding anything, it’s harmful actually.

I don’t feel negatively toward you individually and don’t want this to draw out into a back and forth, so I’ll leave it alone

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the criticism i have of people on hb (and the rest of the internet this isnt remoltely a hb only problem) isnt that i think people think he's lenin 2.0, it's that if you give criticisms of him no matter how gentle, people come in and "crashout", they immediately assume you're calling him a lib like AOC, they will act as if you said things you didnt actually say, etc etc etc. In particular i said this was an example of "libbing out" because i thought it was quite clear what the top level comment was saying and people were acting like they were saying something really weird/stupid when the statement is filled with language that is used to performatively protest against trump. by blue maga dems. i guess i could just start copy pasting shit and just start arguing with 4 people at once but imo that is actual wrecker behavior plus not worth my time so i just left a generic comment summarizing their comments as "libbing out" to let the top level user know that i thought everyone responding to make fun of them was "libbing out"

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago

radlibs love their DNC madlibs. surely this time a socdem winning a primary will be the thing that beats fascism and lets them go back to brunch. to be charitable, maybe they're literal teenagers who don't remember when Obama, Sanders, Warren, AOC, etc. was the One True Progressive whose election would reform the party and redeem the genocidal settler empire.

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