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Are there any philosophical proofs of soul and spirit?? (leminal.space)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by Naive@leminal.space to c/religion@lemmy.world

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Thing is that, I know it can't be proven by science as soul and spirit are something beyond like science can't answer that. I think that there is something called soul and spirit but I am very naive enough to understand what exactly are they. Those who believe, can you pls give me proofs like not scientific, but logical, metaphysical.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Doubt is normal. Faith without doubt is delusion. But faith is a choice to ignore doubt and believe anyway.

There's a lot of study and research and philosophy that has examined the nature and properties of the mind. We can be sure minds exist because we think. The problem is defining what a mind is without tautology. Some philosophers integrate the concepts of the mind and the soul. Others separate the two as distinct concepts. Whatever you believe, there's no physical evidence that the mind survives the death of the body, or exists prior to the birth of a person.

Looking for proof is a dead end, in the literal and figurative meanings.

[–] Naive@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Reminded me of "I think therefore I am". What is tautology?? Well I don't believe anything. I just look for scientific and logical evidence and what seems rationally consistent and true, I accept the fact. I don't have faith.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interestingly, Descartes wrote in the margin "we cannot doubt our existence while we doubt."

Tautology is a form of circular reasoning where you define something as a thing and use the definition to prove it. For example, if I said "all balls are round," you might suggest that you could make a ball out of a cube, or force a ball into a cube shape, disproving my statement. "Aha, but once it is a cube, it ceases to be a ball!" That's a tautological argument. I haven't proven my statement, I have merely defined the statement as true and applied it as truth in my defense.

If you don't have faith, why are you in a religion community asking about souls?

[–] Naive@leminal.space 2 points 2 days ago

I don't know. I just feel that like there is something above me that makes myself that is soul and spirit!! I don't know. But I fear spirits to this day idk why. But in human, i don't know what is spirit? I think soul and spirit are same