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[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I am sick of "history" shows and movies that are completely inaccurate. There are so many unbelievable stories that fiction always takes a backseat for me if I were to choose between a history or sci-fi book for example. Shogun is extremely guilty of this, it had great production but the details were sickeningly incorrect, in Japan people were pissed because it's an opportunity to teach about culture and every Japanese knows the real story and details of Tokugawa Ieyasu. Americans have already been propagandizing and manipulating history in many ways since decades past, there is much change to be done.

[–] Skavau@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

To be fair, I don't know that Shogun ever purported to 100% totally accurate. It is a fictionalisation of events.

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Shogun was adapted from a book by the same name written by James Clavell who wrote a series of historical fiction books that took place in different times in history.

The series stayed pretty faithful to the novel from what I remember, so the person your replying to’s complaint doesn’t really make much sense in that context.

[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh I'm well aware that it was "adapted" from a novel which was quite terribly written, they essentially tried to take from the novel which bastardized history while staying true to the real story which obviously makes no sense. Shogun is an awful fantasization of the story of Tokugawa Ieyasu, James Clavell is an idiot whose books should have stayed dead. It was a great opportunity to right wrongs and portray history correctly, yikes. Rome is another terrible TV example of fictionalizing history when there is plenty of real content to take from.

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

I only ever read Shogun but I remember enjoying it.

Of course, what you call “bastardized history” everyone else calls historical fiction and I thought it seemed to do a good job of mixing history and fiction.

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