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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (21 children)

I don't think this is bad advice. However I don't think that it should be limited to just men.

Also I think the group should align politically and be able to support each other in solidarity. They could also use meeting time to plan resistance to fascist regimes.

However there are quite a few people (I am mostly thinking of men I know) that tend to isolate themselves from friends when they need help the most or once they get into a romantic relationship. This is probably not just a men's issue however.

[–] crimeschneck 11 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Also I think the group should align politically

I think it's best if people get along well with each other despite possible conflicting political views.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 8 points 1 week ago (7 children)

If I have to explain to anyone that genocide is wrong and that human rights are good. Or if I find someone votes to promote genocide or reduce human rights. Then they are not my friend.

I might try to talk in good faith to them, I might attempt to negotiate with them, i might even exchange pleasantries with them. But they will never have my full confidence.

I do not have to "get along" with a fascist.

[–] crimeschneck 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Conflicting political views" doesn't necessarily mean "fascist". I don't understand why this topic always causes such misunderstandings. This is something I also noticed when I made a thread on the Fediverse community asking about possible advantages or disadvantages about the mostly limited range of views on Lemmy. Some users replied in a similar fashion. Maybe it's just a deliberate exaggeration, i don't know.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you haven't noticed the USA is in the middle of a fascist auto-coup.

So it's not exaggeration. I've had to cut ties with members of my family. Because they believe some people are sub humans that don't deserve rights or that regions of the globe should be purged.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Politics usually aren't as polarised as in the USA

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't have any first hand experience outside of the USA. But from global news it sounds like this is a global trend in places like germany, France, Italy, most of south america, Africa, and Asia too.

Maybe I should say that you should align with friends based on your moral principles rather than politics.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

That's better yes. Some of my closest friends are politically very different from me, but in the end we mostly do align morally.

[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 0 points 1 week ago

It's because that language is specifically what fascists are hiding behind, right this minute. It goes right along as the evolution of the 'you're being intolerant of my intolerance!'

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