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Around the world, progressive parties have come to see tight immigration restrictions as unnecessary, even cruel. What if they’re actually the only way for progressivism to flourish?

That the era of low immigration was also the era of progressive triumph is no coincidence. [...] The United States felt more like a cohesive nation to many voters, with higher levels of social trust and national pride, and politicians were able to enact higher taxes on the rich and new benefits like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

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[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (12 children)

It's always been immigration, people. I've been saying it for years. Everyone, even the most liberal, has a breaking point when it comes to how much immigration they can tolerate before they feel like they are losing their way of life. And the amount of people who would migrate to the developed world if they could is basically unlimited, which ensures that every non-restrictive immigration program will eventually be overwhelmed.

I don't hate immigrants, I love and respect them and I reject the racist narratives of the right. But every country needs to have reasonable restrictions on immigration-especially illegal immigration- or eventually the people will radicalize against immigrants. You can say that's unfair but it's just the facts. Source: every nation that has ever experienced immigration waves.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 3 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

As a socialist from Denmark, what convinced me to stop supporting immigration was the realization that we're going to see an overwhelming increase in immigration due to climate change, because enormous parts of northern Africa and the Middle East will become uninhabitable. The increase in climate refugees coupled with our absolutely appaling integration policies, made by right-wing parties over the last 30 years, has convinced me we will absolutely fail misserably if we don't stop.

My politicians are simply too inept to be able to handle it, and it will destroy my country in the process.

[–] coriza@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

It is hard to read someone acknowledge that some of the reasons people seek refuge is directly result from the wealthiest nations fucking up the planet for profit while the firsts to take the effects are the poor nations that very little contributed to said catastrophe and goes:

"sorry, there is no space for you. It is true that we are ripping the fruit of centuries of imperialism and unchecked destruction of nature and sorry that it affects you guys the most, but we cannot make space and give up the way of life that we killed the planet for"

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 0 points 11 hours ago

I don't disagree with that, and I think it's a horrible situation it's putting everyone in, obviously by far the most horrible situation for the people whose home is going to become inhabitable. But realistically, Europe would have to take in too many people. The current population of Northern Africa is roughly 275 million, and the population of the Middle East 500 million. Europe currently has about 742 million people. Doubling that in refugees won't just change our way of life. Society would collapse. Sure, a bunch could go to Asia, but they're already seeing a noticable increase in weather related catastrophes. So I'm not seeing that as a real posibility.

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