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If you believe that Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was unprovoked, you will likely compare Putin to Hitler and will likely oppose President Trump’s peace negotiations with Russia. After all, if Putin’s invasion was unprovoked, a settlement would reward naked aggression and would be akin to Neville Chamberlain’s 1938 appeasement…

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

The only concrete assertion I see in this linked wall of text is:

Ukrainians are "dominated in their thinking by neo-Nazis”

…Which is false. And tremendously ironic in the current political climate in the EU/US.

The rest is just a whole bunch of whataboutism about how the US is a pompous, warmongering ass, which is true. But it’s no excuse.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

if you ever chose to pay attention, you and the public will come to learn about the circumstances that led to this war at some point in the future. ever since vietnam and including iraq, these lessons from history has given us independently verifiable proof years after the conflict that the american government has lied to the public (and always will). history also teaches us that, that proof was always there since the beginning of all conflicts, but the public continually choses to ignore it because of the controlled narrative that people are unwittingly spoon-fed by the consent manufacturing machine that is our media.

if you chose to not pay attention, academics will study and students will learn of the warnings that came before & at the onset of ukraine conflict from people like ambassadors gfoeller, rundell, matlock or secretaries of defense mcnamara, gates, perry and from examples of propaganda from publications like the new york times. all of these are the examples from this article you've chosen to ignore in your steadfast adherence to a maga-like willful ignorance that has created this new fascist world that we're all forced it live within.

[–] donkeyass@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 1 month ago

Not a whole lotta substance in all that text.

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