this post was submitted on 14 Feb 2025
831 points (98.3% liked)

DeclineIntoCensorship

153 readers
19 users here now

founded 1 week ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

“The purpose of a system is what it does”.

This is certainly a viewpoint, but I don't necessarily agree when people state it as if it's a foregone conclusion.

Starve the beast exists. They purposefully cripple these systems, and if you were to adhere to that statement, then it means that we should do away with the systems altogether because they're currently broken (read: sabotaged).

That is a bad take imo

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Someone responded to me with this a while back. The purpose of a system is what it does. I shot back some shit, but then I thought about it. They're right. The purpose of a system is what it does. It became clear to me. It literally does not matter in the real world what the creators of a system say it is for. The purpose of the system is what it does.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I mean... no. The purpose of the Department of Education has been very clear. Just because they fire a shitload of people, and make it so they cannot perform their function for the time being, does not mean that the purpose of the Department has changed.

The purpose remains, the Department just needs to be fixed so that it can continue to serve its purpose.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the Department just needs to be fixed so that it can continue to serve its purpose.

All this means is "don't give up." You acknowledge it's not serving its purpose right now, it's serving some other purpose.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No. It means don't throw out entire agencies wholesale because of some bullshit misunderstanding.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, of course. Who is talking about throwing the Department of Education out wholesale?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For real? Have you not been paying attention?

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I have. Sauerkraut was talking about voting reform. Which, I'll point out, still does not require the complete dissolution of the voting system we have.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)