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One of the biggest myths about renewable energy is that it isn’t reliable. Sure, the sun sets every night and winds calm down, putting solar panels and turbines to sleep. But when those renewables are humming, they’re providing the grid with electricity and charging banks of batteries, which then supply power at night.

A new study in the journal Renewable Energy that looked at California’s deployment of renewable power highlights just how reliable the future of energy might be. It found that last year, from late winter to early summer, renewables fulfilled 100 percent of the state’s electricity demand for up to 10 hours on 98 of 116 days, a record for California. Not only were there no blackouts during that time, thanks in part to backup battery power, but at their peak the renewables provided up to 162 percent of the grid’s needs — adding extra electricity California could export to neighboring states or use to fill batteries.

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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago (13 children)

California didn't really debunk anything here. It's a coastal state with plenty of wind and a predominantly warm, sunny, rain free climate. Of course renewables like wind and solar do well. The reliability concerns are usually more prevalent in areas that have much higher precipitation, and especially in climates that get snow.

[–] SteveKLord@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

From the scientific journal directly sited in the article :

It’s true that solar energy is only produced when the sun is shining on solar panels. Likewise, wind energy is dependent on the ebb and flow of air currents. But the sheer volume of renewable energy being deployed, the ability to store that energy for longer, and to match demand with supply using software, creates a balanced grid.

According to BloombergNEF, lithium-ion battery cell densities have almost tripled, and costs have declined by almost 90% in the past decade – making it easier to smooth out the peaks and troughs of generation to meet the shifts and cycles of demand. Renewable energy sources themselves have dropped by as much as 82% over the same timeframe. Further improvements to both generation and storage will continue driving down costs, making renewable energy even more attractive to consumers.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Ok, but none of that mentions how they plan to account for panels buried under a foot of snow for half the year. That's the source of the concern, not simply smoothing out daily peaks and valleys.

[–] SteveKLord@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 month ago

The article is focusing on California as an example so that doesn't seem entirely necessary but you could look to Norway to discover how they deal with this:

Vertical Panels are one solution as are Snow Repellent Panels and heated solar panels

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