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wait why is captain america up there? its wrong to fight nazis? is that what you're saying?
What are you talking about man? Of course all Super Hero stories are propaganda, but Nazi propaganda??? Do you even know what that word means?
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fi1un7mkv3dr11.jpg
That sounds like Nazi propaganda to you? I don't care if you want to shit all over corporate media, I'd probably even agree with you, but this take just isn't it
Yes. That sounds exactly like nazi propaganda.
So fucking sick of people who do exactly zero reading on a topic spouting off with 'common sense' and think their incredulity is the same thing as having a single thought knocking around your head.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism
Like it's so fucking hard to imagine that "Super Humans" which exactly translates to German as "Ubermench" could have nazi ideology baked in to the very foundation.
Where exactly does a Captain America comic argue for creating more super soldiers? You think the characters backstory overrules everything he says or does? You said I've done "zero reading" but you didn't even respond to the comic panel I posted, you're not interested in a conversation, you just want to preach at me
What the fuck are you even talking about. Completely incoherent.
You posted a speech and asked if it sounded like nazi propaganda. Now you want me to care about your cartoon lore? Are you here to have an adult conversation or do you want to play with dolls?
Read the fucking link I gave you and you'll find the response you asked for. Why do you think I bothered linking it to you? Do you need everything spoonfed? It's like a page and a half. Fucking Christ.
Did you even read your own link?
I posted an exact panel from the source material showing you the character standing against one of the principles of fascism, and you still called it Nazi propaganda? Maybe you should start using your brain instead of calling everything you don't like Nazi propaganda.
If you actually read it instead of just looking for a facile 'own' to mine from it, you'd have noticed a lot of the points were contradictory to each other and that there are two or three points that directly apply to super hero comics and that speech in particular.
Guy in a thread where the topic is poptarts: "You just say everything you don't like is poptarts!"
I believe media like super hero comics can be used to examine difficult topics like facism. That does not make the entire medium Nazi propaganda. For example Capitan America's backstory is clearly an allegory for America hiring German scientists after the war.
I am specifically arguing that the character Captian America is not inherently fascist. You keep asserting he is without providing any examples. All while throwing in ridiculous strawman arguments.
If you believe all super hero comics are inherently fascist, I'm not sure this is a productive conversation.
I honestly hope you're fucking with me.
"Captain America is a perfect example of comics not being fascist propaganda because his story is about that time we sheltered nazi war criminals"
You're an idiot that dismisses things offhand and shuts your brain down. No shit this isn't a productive conversation. Super hero comics are the distilled essence of great man theory. So now you have received your shutdown signal.
You really don't know what the hell you're talking about here.
lol stfu
Excuse me, I wasn't aware that class distinctions were enforced on lemmy.
So fucking sick of people reading a book and suddenly thinking they're right about everything. Have you considered the book you're reading may be incorrect, or that there's more involved with superheros than "Buff white guy = Nazi," especially with a character that was created specifically to oppose fascism?
So just the fact that a character is super strong automatically makes him a Nazi?
Booster Gold is a buff white superhero. Is he a Nazi? Such bullshit.
You as a person are exactly as fucking stupid as this strawman
What a relief to find out the person replying to every comment of mine is a fucking moron that can't even follow a few simple sentences in a forum comment while shitting on the idea of reading books.
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Except in real life you actually said this stupid shit:
This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read in my entire life and shows you know absolutely nothing about the subject. The concept of a "superhero" predates National Socialism, concept of a Nazi superman, and even the creation of fascism as an ideology itself, and in fact has roots in myths and folklore.
But you wouldn't know that because you're too busy being sniffing your own farts. Here's some advice, try reading a comic book before you talk about them, maybe then you won't look so stupid.