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The UI for Fenix is dated. Some things need a little bit of love and others just don't make sense at all, like when you paste a URL, you can't see the URL or the Paste and Paste & Go options because the system pop up gets in the way.

Material Design and by extension Android moved away from pop ups and toasts and adopted elements like bottom sheets.

The custom share sheet is a nuisance and there's not even a way to get to the native share sheet.

Firefox for Android works, but it doesn't look or feel like a modern browser that was designed for modern Android.

So being that Android design has evolved so much since Fenix last got a lick of paint, I'm wondering, has anyone heard of anything in the works? Seen any commits or mockups? Screenshots? A mention on Matrix or the mailing lists?

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I've got a brand new Pixel 8 and my battery isn't making it through the day. Android tells me Firefox is eating it up in the background. I just changed it to restricted battery use and I'll see if that helps.

I do not want to switch to Brave or Chrome, but this is intolerable. What are you favorite Firefox alternatives and why? Mull? Librewolf?

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I use KDE Plasma, and much prefer the KDE color picker over the GTK one that Firefox uses, with input type=color.

I know that I can set GTK_USE_PORTAL=1 to make Firefox use the native file picker, is there a way to make it use the native color picker as well?

I know there probably isn't a way, but I figured it's worth a shot asking.

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I rarely use webapps on mobile because they seem to work not that good in my experience.

There's this site called www.spenderservice.net/ or paypal.com and on both I have to login every time I open the "webapp" which kind of defeats the purpose of a webapp.

Am I doing something wrong? What's your experience?

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#Firefox #Webbrowser kann ganze Webseiten auf deinem #Handy oder #Computer lokal übersetzen.

Ab Firefox Version 118.

Das können andere Browser zwar auch, aber die schicken zum Übersetzen alles, was du anschaust an einen #Cloud Übersetzungs #Dienstleister. Dadurch kann jemand mitlesen, was du interessant findest.

#Datenschutz #Privacy #Überwachung #StopChatcontrol @firefox

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Hello @firefox

Until recently, #AltText⁣s showed in #FireFox as a small box when I hovered over an image. Now, not any more. 🙁

Is this a bug or a feature, or does it only happen to me?

If this is a new setting, where can it be re-enabled?

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I am tempted to start using the @Vivaldi browser but then I looked* at the diversity in the underlying technology and I think it is better to promote and start using @firefox :firefox: more.

Or should we leave it to #Google :omya_google: and #Apple :apple_inc: only❓

I'm curious 😅 @Vivaldi why not use SpiderMonkey and Gecko❓

*Table was created with the help of #Bard

#OpenSource #browser #w3c #codinglife

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Addons that can do one the other or both. I looked in the Firefox addons store for but most of them have their own GUI for doing so. That could work but ideally I'd like to select a folder or some bookmarks in the bookmarks menu or sidebar and select a context menu option to refresh those favicons and or titles, its possible to run context menu options on multiple selected bookmarks like that, like copytabtitleurl.

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I really don't like the psuedo-native look of the element dropdown menu on macOS, and I thought Firefox was trying to embrace native widgets when they added support for macOS right click context menus a few years ago. That issue was open for 20+ years! This sucks.

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Mozilla usually sends a ping to your browser and that's how they know you are using firefox and that's how Mozilla counts the reducing number of users who are using FF, so I was wondering if this survey includes forks of FF.

PS: If you turn off telemetry completely, you won't be counted in surveys, most Mozilla forks are more private by default than FF itself. So, I was wondering if more people were using forks and abandoning FF for privacy reasons. Thus reducing the count. That makes sense?

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edit: just installed WaterFox and apparently they use bing, very interesting choice. I am not sure if I am for that, but heck I can change the default engine. So, I don't care

also, I like Waterfox already uninstalled Chrome. I can't believe I didn't know this until now. Why can't Firefox do this btw?


I know firefox is the only non-chrome browser out there, but how hard is it to make an extension for firefox along with chrome?

I cry myself to sleep knowing that the extensions I want are available on Chrome and not on Firefox. And it's not going to get any better as Firefox is not gaining any users. Also, why the hell is this the case? I would pay to use Firefox! It's FOSS and it has so many features, Idk, deserves to be no 1, but it's f*cking dying!

There are some extensions I can't live without and only for those extensions I am forced to keep Chrome on my computer. I don't like Chrome and I don't want Chrome but I want them extensions :(

Also, how safe is Chromium? Is it de googled? I think I might go for de-googled chromium + Firefox from now on. I will uninstall Chrome. I have disabled updates for it anyways!

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I have 10+ messages on Discord

I either want an extension to save discord messages as pdf or one single screenshot.

OR

I want to know if there is a way to export certain messages on discord into pdf or jpg images.

Usecase: I ask doubts on Math discord servers, sometimes it can be concluded in one page (and I can screenshot it) and save it along with the question so I can have a look at it before exams. But some questions take longer discussions. Discord is chaotic and shi**y according to me. I want to have images or pdf locally. So, how would you go by doing this?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/discord-notebook/ This is a nice add-on which is available for Chrome too. But, it's a pain in the jazz and it really isn't better than a screenshot. I added it here coz I thought some of you might find this helpful.

I could have easily have done a long screenshot with Firefox's screenshot application (in the browser), but discord website won't let me scroll. If you guys can help me with the scroll thing then the problem is solved.

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I'm so beyond fucking tired of changing my about:config over and over and over and over to reallow myself to drag files to my desktop. Why the fuck is this so important for Mozilla to change on me every single time? Let me keep my settings how I fucking want them!

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Thanks for the downvotes. I need to search questions for an exam I have and I can't do that any other way. It helps me better search the net. I am sorry, it's good. I wish there was a FOSS alternative for it which does as good a job. So, here's how you use Bing Chat on Firefox https://pureinfotech.com/access-bing-chat-ai-chrome-firefox/#bing_chat_firefox

I know for a fact that this will cause problems, but I don't what kind of problems (I have experienced it once, but I rectified it by removing the settings that are mentioned above and I literally forgot about it) edit: Problem 1: Some websites won't load (not sure if it's related, but these websites have cloudfare "security" thing in them)

It was working until yesterday but it isn't now. It was a really nice tool to get better searches from the internet without doing it yourself. Now, I want to know if I am doing something wrong or if MS is shutting off Bing Chat for the infidels who don't use the holy edge browser. I remember this happening when MS first released Bing Chat. They probably let users use it on other browsers for a little while to make sure they become dependent on it.

I mean, we can modify firefox settings and make your browser look like edge, but I very vividly remember regret doing this because I faced a problem asap which was resolved by turning firefox settings back to normal (that one particular setting)

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Having moved from @Vivaldi to @firefox for windows, I've come accross this amazing plug-in that gives me keyboard control over Firefox. https://github.com/gdh1995/vimium-c

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Back in June 2002, Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth was experiencing space for the first time, the Department of Justice's antitrust case against Microsoft was reaching its final arguments, and Adam Price, using what was then called Mozilla on a Mac, had an issue with persistent tooltips.

"If I mouseover a toolbar link, and wait for a second, a little yellow box with the description of the link appears. If I now use command-tab to move Mozilla to the background, the little yellow box stays there, in the foreground. The only way to get rid of it is to put mozilla in the foreground again, and move the mouse off the toolbar," Price wrote on June 2. There were a few other bugs related to this issue, but Price set down a reproducible issue, confirmed by many others in the weeks to come—and months to come, years to come, and more than two decades to come.

Over the years, people would check in on the thread or mark other bugs as duplicates of this one issue. It would occasionally seem fixed, only for coders and commenters to discover that it was just a little different in different versions or that prior fixes were seemingly accidental. Sometimes it seemed to appear in Windows or Linux, too. One commenter, denis, noted that at the 21-year mark: "I'm kinda partial to let it be forever. It feels like a relic from the past."

That relic is no more, as a fix to Bug 148624 was pushed in early September, with the fix appearing in build 119. I tried to replicate the tooltip on my not-yet-updated 118.0.1 Firefox browser on Mac but could not experience this rite of passage for myself. The patch itself is quite small, adding a check for whether a document has focus to the tooltip-showing code.

Yifan Zhu, who wrote the patch to Firefox's Tooltip Listener, wrote to Ars that they first encountered the bug in Thunderbird on Linux, as "seemingly random segments of text floating on my screen." Switching frequently between virtual desktops left subject lines floating on their screen, which was "extremely annoying." Zhu learned to switch back to either Firefox or Thunderbird and move their cursor before switching back.

But it grew on them, so they researched and sought to submit the bug, but "To my horror, I realized this bug report has been open for more than 20 years, and still hasn't been fixed." Because it was "a minor 'cosmetic' issue not causing crashes," there was a good chance nobody would fix it—"Unless I do it myself," Zhu wrote.

Zhu was motivated and knew how to program but had "zero experience in projects as complicated as the Firefox browser" and had "never contributed to open source projects before." But it was the summer before their PhD program started. "So, why not?"

Their start was inauspicious, to say the least. "I just searched for 'tooltip' in the entire code base, examined stuff for possible candidates, and inserted debugging print statements to follow the execution," Zhu wrote. This eventually bore answers. "When the mouse hovers over some element, a timer is started to display the tooltip. The timer would be canceled on a mouse-out event, which Firefox wasn't getting when I used keyboard shortcuts to switch windows or virtual desktops."

Zhu pushed a commit that made tooltip display based on Firefox losing focus, rather than the mouse leaving the application. In the next few hours, they heard from Emilio Cobos Álvarez, who refined Zhu's approach and helped get the commit into the code base. While the fix has created some regression, that bug is seeing work, too.

Zhu, born in 1999, just three years before this bug was submitted, had just finished their undergrad and Masters work at Stanford when they went work on it. They are just starting their PhD in electrical engineering. They can only guess why a bug like this has lasted for most of their life. Their guess it that it's both a cosmetic inconvenience and tricky to reproduce, leaving other, more serious bugs with perennially higher ranking.

Cobos Álvarez, who shepherded Zhu's fix into a commit, wrote to us that "this area is rather tricky," given various Firefox configurations and how they respond to different operating systems. Finding a solution that elegantly dealt with a lack of input on when a Mozilla app wasn't in focus, without guarantee of OS input, was tricky. "Pretty impressive for his first Firefox contribution!"

On social media, especially the Mastodon instances where you might expect to find people with opinions on Mozilla's XML User Interface Language, there was much rejoicing. Some noted their amazement that Bugzilla itself, the bug reporting tool, had lasted even longer than the bug (25 years as of August). Some suggested that this fix countered the prevalence of "stalebots," which single out old, unresolved issues for deletion. And one drafted a full hero's journey.

Not anyone can make a great commit, but a great commit can come from anywhere.

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Progress?

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EDIT: Today I dug a bit more and found that dom.image-lazy-loading.enabled preference has been removed and saw this comment on a related thread:

FWIW, it should still be possible to effectively turn off lazy loading by setting dom.image-lazy-loading.root-margin.* to a big number.

Which I tried (value 100000) and it works!


Hi, I have a slow connection and for pages with lot of images it's very convenient to open the page and wait for all the images to load before watching them.


I have dom.image-lazy-loading.enabled set to false but I have found webs where it doesn't work, like with Behance galleries. I see the loading="lazy" attribute on the img tags, but they don't load until I scroll down to them.

Does anyone know if I'm missing something or if there is any way to debug it further?


There are also pages (like this one) in where ~~I don't see the loading="lazy" attribute but~~ I see a lazy-images.js file on the Debugger file list, data-lazy-src attributes in img elements and other img elements with loading="lazy" inside noscript tags. I understand that the dom.image-lazy-loading.enabled setting may not work with custom lazy loading implementations.

Does anyone know of any solution for these cases?


EDIT: I've also tried LazyLoadify add-on with no luck.


Thanks!

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Many add-ons have somewhat spookiy authorisation requirements, such as "access all of your activity". In many cases this is justified by it's function, and of course there isn't any problem with it as long as we're sure all this data stays on your computer and isn't shared with any remote server. How are we sure of that tho? Is there an easy way to check for each add-on ?

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