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He also claims that they banned the letter "N" kekw

how can anyone take these people seriously?

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[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did you know that most people living in the people's republic of china go their entire life without being able to say "I disagree with the cpc"? That is because English isn't their main language.

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

I straight up giggled

[–] ReformOrDDRevolution@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The word China is in fact banned in China

[–] juchenecromancer@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 2 years ago

A simple Baidu search with Deepl shows you that mentions of Tiananmen square aren't censored in China, it's so stupid what libs believe.

[–] luchuan@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These are the same people that unironically want to ban Z lol

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Germany effectively did. German libs love to say that we have "freedom of opinion" here and not freedom of speech, but even that freedom of opinion is being eroded almost by the day.

[–] RedCat@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Germany also officialy declared that the Holodomor was started intentionally by the Soviets to punish Ukraine.

It's mental what this country is up to.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That one hurts in a particular kind of way, given how instrumental the Nazis were in originally spreading the myth of the Holodomor (and other anti-Soviet atrocity propaganda).

[–] RedCat@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah I know. Never again my ass.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 years ago

I mean the thumbnail has a winnie pooh xi, only edgy kids and teens find that funny.

[–] CPCsStrongestWumao@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

One search on Baidu or Zhihu proves it wrong.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Checking that would require the viewer to have the intellectual curiosity to ask if what they're being presented is true.

[–] CPCsStrongestWumao@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

to these people, if the accusation is about China, its automatically true, and questioning it means you're a tankie

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

This is literally the same strategy used by the west in the "anti Stalin paradigm" which is a term coined by Grover Furr. In his many years of research into the Soviet Unions and western propaganda he states that basically the west can make up anything they want, any accusation at all, and if you question it in any way you are now a sympathizer with the accused and their made up crimes. So if I said Stalin personally strangled 100 children for no reason, and you ask me for a source, the reaction would be me accusing you of approving of Stalins strangling of 1000 children.

As we see, this is a tactic they employ against any target they wish.

[–] JTurtle@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

supposedly, the many banned terms were quickly unbanned, but further reading would require being able to read Chinese. which i can't.

for comrades braver than me, here's br*tmonkey's source list for the video: https://pastebin.com/qNQbXyUE

and the source for "letter N was banned" (from the guardian, notorious source of Unbiased™ reporting about china): https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/28/china-bans-the-letter-n-internet-xi-jinping-extends-power

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

they claim that the word "disagree" is banned on Chinese social media.

How the fuck do people fall for this kind of shit when it's so easily disproven?

Translation into Chinese from https://translate.alibaba.com/ -- Disagree -> 不同意

I will now apparently commit thoughtcrime: https://s.weibo.com/weibo?q=%E4%B8%8D%E5%90%8C%E6%84%8F

Will update if I get a knock on the door from the seeseepee overseas police that's apparently already in Canada where I am, or if my family in China are threatened. Or if I suddenly stop posting, I guess I'm already in one of the Xinjiang camps by then.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 years ago (28 children)

People take it seriously because it is white noise. They could just have a person jumping up and down saying "Tinyman square" over and over again it would have exactly the same effect. It isn't supposed to be informative, it's supposed to affirm their previously held belief of "Chinabad." It exists as a big list of things because each individual part of it doesn't actually matter, the goal is to do a kind of "Gish Gallop" of information, to just list off a huge number of things all at once, when all each of these individual things is just another statement of "Chinabad" again and again. It's almost like a mantra, being repeated so often as a form of meditation, to achieve true liberal enlightenment.

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[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can’t say the N word if there is no letter N😈 -Xi Jinping

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

I thought he looked a lot grainier

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago

Just saw the vid suggested to me like an hour before checking this post, salute 🫡, I didn’t have the strength to trudge through that garbage

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It also seems most commenters didn't watch the video either. The claim isn't that those words were permanently banned, it's that they were temporarily removed (blocked) from search results untill people calmed down, when they were allowed again.

A simple Google search returns multiple articles with the claim, all linking back to this post from the China Digital Times.

I haven't found claims of the site sharing missinformation.

[–] CPCsStrongestWumao@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

US based media site that's run by the vice chairman of the World Movement for Democracy (founded by the NED)