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More deranged far right media tossing smoke grenades at and setting off fireworks in the faces of already deranged right-wingers, calling it WWIII. Earth keeps turning, sun keeps burning.

Awww 💔

[hands mouse a slotted screwdriver] have fun with that dragon’s tail, little dude

Wise move. Yep, I got one of those mega packs of tp around April of ‘21, still have entire rolls left. That pack cost ~ $13.

Also, my deepest condolences regarding your girlfriend. Not all can, or will, accept a better way when shown one.

Based on what you’re telling me, you should continue to follow your current hygiene practices and disregard the use of bidets altogether.

Okay, yep, I pulled up the list summarizing their experiments, and saw this listed there. We’re on the same page, then.

Fiber is fantastic for emptying the bowels, but doesn’t obviate the need for toilet hygiene.

Also I’m pretty sure OOP meant scooping (or rather scraping) the shit from between the ass cheeks, not plowing into the farthest reaches of the bowels using an excavator. I could be wrong, though.

Is it where they demonstrate that the toilet seat may be the cleanest surface in the house?

Because a lot of fear, outright ignorance, misconceptions, and other internalized beliefs.

In some cases people talk about “shit water running down my legs!”, so I don’t think they can visualize the water falling down into the bowl, and leaning a bit to one side to wipe dry. Or (possibly? idk) they think you stand up to use the bidet.

Another one is fear of the spray spreading bacteria around, or the like.

Then there is that the admittedly low bar for entry of installing the bidets is enough friction to not deviate from scraping-based insanity.

Effectively, yes, if you cover your hand with the rag. I’ve mostly seen people hold the rag in their hand, using it in the same manner one uses a broom to sweep the floor.

You can do the same thing with a bidet and completely obviate the need to get in the shower.

As I understand, those who clean with soap on the bidet are already washing the hand that washes out the ass-crack, the same way as if you’re in the shower, and now to know your ass is shower level clean.

Before answering your question, I guess I’d have to ask my own:

Since poop particles will coat the inside of the toilet lid, do you wipe the lid clean immediately after the flush (to prevent bacteria from spreading all over the seat) or do you wait until you have to use the toilet again, and wipe the seat clean so your back isn’t in close proximity to the inside of a toilet lid that’s covered in poop spray?

I hear many laypeople talk about the aerosol effect, but never hear any guidance from the health authorities about it other than, “You should wash your hands after using the toilet.”

Also, the bum gun style of bidet is just like a miniature shower head. Whatever residue there may be would get washed away each use. It’s pretty trivial to wipe down your own hand-held bidet before/after each use, and the toilet seat style bidets nearly always come with a self-cleaning feature.

If you’re that stressed out over the idea, do what works best for you. Germaphobia is real. As for cleanliness, the Japanese are some of the most fastidiously clean people, and they generally have no problems using public bidets.

It would seem to me that if bidets were as unhygienic as some people find them to be, that countries where they are most prevalent wouldn’t have a prolonged history of using them, and wouldn’t be horrified by how other cultures have no problem scraping poop with their hands from between their butt cheeks.