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Games on Linux are great now this is why I fully moved to Linux. Is the the work place Pc's market improving.

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Default install from box store systems

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Deciding om what is the best distro

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 23 points 1 day ago

People can’t be bothered to run better messaging apps. Expecting them to change OS is crazy

Do the same thing for CAD software engineers that was done for gamers and gaming. Quality CAD software would move companies to make the switch. Once people use it at work and school, they'll use it at home. I'm hoping the Chinese government's move to Linux will lead to their investing in FreeCAD.

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Adding my voice to the hardware compatibility issue. While most hardware just works, Linux usually lacks the ability to configure the device. Audio interfaces are a good example of this. They work but you can't set the sample rate or enable any custom features on ANY of them.

I believe government regulators should step in and require hardware manufacturers to provide Linux support equal to Windows or Mac. This could be relaxed for low volume or highly specialised devices, but mainstream consumer stuff should be more universal.

It CAN be configured, but you have to go hunting for the tools to do so.

I've got an old 5.1 surround sound speaker setup attached to my main rig, and in both Cinnamon and KDE (the only two I've tried), you can't use the normal DE's audio control panel to put the thing in 5.1 mode without first installing an old, probably unmaintained tool called ALSAJackRetask. Once you've retasked the jacks, several options for surround appear in the DE's audio control panel. It knows but it can't do.

[–] nocteb@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They work but you can't set the sample rate or enable any custom features on ANY of them.

Not in my experience. I have a RME card that can be configured via alsamixer (which should work for most cards) and a Focusrite Saphire USB interface that someone wrote a little UI for in which you can even freely route audio to/from different channels and mix busses.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are either of those accessible from the GUI in a fresh default install? I know exactly where in Windows to find that control panel (granted they make it more convoluted to get to in every successive version), but I don't know how I would do it with just what the OS provides in either Mint or Kubuntu (the two distros I have the most familiarity with).

I have only been rocking Linux as a daily driver for a year or two now though, so it could just be a gap in my knowledge.

[–] nocteb@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No but now we get closer to the real problem. Meaning there is an accessibility problem, which is different than the (in my opinion wrong) statement that I wanted to correct.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ah, fair enough.

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you able to enable the Air function or doing any routing on your focusrite? I've found a way to handle sample rates on Topping Pro 2x2, and on my old focusrite 2i2. But input delays through the audio layers in linux are slower than windows and mac.

I should clarify my original comment. I'm looking for full feature parity out of the box and not having to devise some sort of work around or relay on a 3rd party and hope they don't stop maintaining it.

It is a real frustration, I use my linux install as must as I can but somethings are limited by the lack of 1st party support.

[–] nocteb@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The problem with audio interfaces is that they function very different internally and have different kind of settings. Alsamixer does usually a decent job of listing all parameters but it is an old TUI tool and not nicely embedded into the desktop so I guess people just don't find it. Stuff like latencies just have to do with buffer sizes that are configured in your machines audio system, usually pipewire, pulseaudio or jack, which all work on top of alsa (which is where the drivers run). You can reduce the buffers there (in config files) to get lower latencies. This however means that your system needs to have a very tight scheduling for your audio processes, because if it fails to fill the buffer in time there will be glitches. Professional low latency audio does definetly not work out of the box on linux. It got a little better with pipewire, but I don't think it works well without a little bit of tinkering. If you decide to tinker I recommend you read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Professional_audio

I don't remember which tool I use for my Scarlett (I'm travelling). But I googled a bit and this looks good:

https://blog.rtrace.io/posts/fedora-support-focusrite-scarlett/

This all would be better if manufacturers would provide Linux config tools like they do on windows or at least information of their protocols. Until they do we have to be greatful for people reverse engineering that stuff (e.g. by analysing USB traffic on windows) and then writing uis for it.

Edit: this site seems to make more sense as the arch wiki page (it is linked there):

https://this.ven.uber.space/docs/computer/pro-audio/

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Linux has only become much more user friendly in about the past 5 years. Installing Linux Mint in my experience was actually easier than Windows. It comes down to education and the misconception that using Linux is somehow more difficult than Windows or iOS. The hard truth is if someone is using Windows or iOS they are probably just too lazy to switch as long as it does what they need they don't care if they're being burdened with bloatware or spied on.

I think with any alternative to big tech the problem is most people are really unwilling to change their habits and make short term compromises. A lot of people know on a surface level that big tech is stealing their data etc. But actually changing their habits goes to far.

Another issue is that its more or less a systemic issue.

To many people aren't even awear of what FOSS even is. The state of Foss and is a bit complicated where you do have organizations and activists advocating for it but also gigantic corporations that use Foss technology and exploit the free labor that goes into it.

There definitely needs to be more activism for FOSS technology and alternatives to big tech. And those alternatives should be open to everyone like Linux is. Of course there are always multiple reasons why something isn't used but I do think it is important to look at a bigger perspective than individual consumer/ in this case users

Native Adobe apps ports :(

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

Be preinstalled on laptops/desktops.

everything else is ready unless you use niche software. Most people just use a browser and word or a pdf editor.

note the distro MUST be an immutable up to date kde flatpak using one for normal people, however

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[–] Flimbo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Personally for me its compatibility and support. Too many of programs and hardware I use daily aren't compatible or even have a Linux version or have little to no support officially or not.

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[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I think part of the problem is that while Linux software is constantly getting more user friendly, the average user is getting less knowledgeable about computers at just as fast of a rate. People even understanding the concept of files and folders doesn't seem to be a given anymore.

[–] meta4@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago

This is an unfortunate truth. I occasionally teach a short course on basic computer networking with a short segment on Unix/Linux to students ranging from ages 18-25 and only about 1 or 2 out of every class of 20 even knows what an "operating system" is.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You use an interesting example- personally, I feel like while files and folders have their place, I prefer they be part of the background and not presented to the user. Take photos, for example. If I'm looking for pictures of my dog, I don't want to go into the 2022 folder, then the August folder, then look through all those files, back out into 2022 then go into the September folder, etc. I just want to type 'dog'. Or pick from a dropdown list of common tags, or anything other than digging through files and folders.

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[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago

Everything mainstream is a black box corporate ecosystem these days. Kids learn how to use specific programs and mobile apps, but don't learn anything about the OS or machine itself because everything is isolated and "just works".

It's a really weird spot to be in. We're used to the older generations being bad with tech, but now it's also the younger ones too.

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[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 days ago

This most difficult one is probably the fact that 99% of people do not install their operating system.

The device they purchase needs to have a clean and elegant out of box experience like the Mac. Regular folk who are willing to stray from windows don't consider any computer that doesn't come off the shelf with sane defaults. Everything else is arcane to them.

We are not those people. I have to remind myself that not everyone likes to build their own systems.

I do have a friend who wants to buy a framework laptop with Fedora on it because that's what they use in the Laboratory he works in but he doesn't want to assemble it himself he just wants it to come like that.

I think we're getting there finally.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

As my employer has turned to almost exclusive webcrap over software - I see no hurdles really. Webapps run shitty either way. Fucking Salesforce and Opus bullshit... refresh.. refresh...

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] qt0x40490FDB@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago

I’m gradually concluding that every decision in computer UI has been wrong. Peak UI happened in the 1990s; it’s been downhill ever since. People think terminals are scary, but come on—asking ChatGPT “how do I do this?” and getting three lines that have worked unchanged since 1989 is not harder than watching some tech-bro explain which menus to click… menus that get rearranged every six months so they can find new ways to wedge ads into your ribbon.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In Enterprise: manageability. It's hard to overstate how powerful Windows Group Policy is. Being able to configure every single aspect of the OS and virtually all major applications, Microsoft or otherwise, using a single application that can apply rules dynamically based on user, device, user or device groups, time of day, location, battery level, form factor, etc, etc. Nothing on Linux comes close, especially when simplicity is a factor, and until it does most large organisations won't touch it with a barge pole.

[–] flubba86@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Came here to say this. My workplace used to offer a Linux workstation option (which I opted in for 9 years), but they had to remove that option to fulfill new security and management, compliance standards. They need to be able to manage exactly which applications are installed on a system, which binaries are allowed to run and when, the exact settings for every application, the exact version of the OS and the specific updates, and precisely when updates are installed. All of this needs to be applied based on the user, their organisational division, their security groups, clearance level, specific model of device, etc.

I know that using a combination of Selinux, Kerberos, and something like Puppet can get you close in the Linux world, but Microsoft group policy has been around for 30 years and is well understood and just works.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People who convince themselves they "just aren't good with computers."

In the early 2000s, it was widely thought that everyone who grew up with them would be reasonably competent with them. We now have 20-30 year olds who are still stumped with basic computing concepts like how to reset a forgotten password. I literally ran into this a couple of months ago: Really? You haven't had to do this a dozen times in your life by now? How did you finish college (this person was highly educated)?

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[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 76 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Come pre installed. As much as it pains me, LTT guy is probably right to a degree as well. Shit needs to work without tinkering. Personally I don't mind some tinkering - enjoy it even. But the average Joanne does not.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

by law in brazil every computer sold has to have alternatives to windows, which is usually linux. it DID drive some adoption, but past a certain point people are mostly choosing windows.

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[–] haloduder@thelemmy.club 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm reminded of a video I saw of a woman talking about her dating prospects using M&Ms. She poured a bunch on the table as a metaphor for her dating pool, and slid away M&Ms as she ruled the people they represent out. "8 million people in the city. But half are women slides half of the M&Ms away of the remaining 4 million men, 20% are under 25, slides more M&Ms away" until she got to a point where she had one candy left, and then she shattered it with a meat tenderizer and continued sliding pieces of it away.

You can do that for potential adoptees of Linux, because there are a bunch of filters in series you have to pass through before successfully adopting Linux.

8 billion people on the planet.

Subtract the Sentinelese and Amish and North Koreans and everyone else who just outright doesn't have access to computers. Nothing we can really do about them and in some cases it would be unethical to try.

Now subtract out the people who only use a mobile device like a cell phone or tablet, which are locked to their OSes. Android or iOS is as much a part of the hardware as a microwave oven's firmware is to them. Linux on mobile devices (excluding Android) is in a severely rough state, there's basically no hardware and software combo that is ready for daily driving.

Now subtract out the people who do use a PC or other device, that won't ever install an operating system on a computer themselves. You'll get some of these folks by selling computers with Linux installed in stores and such, though I think you'll have to address a few other points later. I think SteamOS is demonstrating this.

Now subtract the people who might install Linux themselves, say PC builders who would have to install an OS anyway, but bounce off the process of choosing a distro and then installing. The big distributors like Canonical and Fedora tend toward marketing wankshit instead of human language. You can't tell their goddamn websites "I just want the normal end-user desktop version with KDE please." Does "Core" mean our main, central product, or the IoT embedded system version? You kind of have to know Fedora calls their Gnome edition "Workstation" and if you want "normal Fedora but with KDE" that's a "Spin." Then you get the Trendy Fork Of The Month, things like Bazzite and Nobara that pretty much are Fedora or Ubuntu with a theme applied, maybe some actual features in the OS, but often just a redone onboarding process, like I think it's Bazzite that offers a configurator on their website that lets you pick your desktop and such. Defuckulating the onboarding process of major distros might allow us to do away with the Trendy Fork Of The Month.

Now subtract the folks who get a Linux machine up and running and then bounce off of the unfamiliar UI. I'm pretty sure this is Gnome's fault more often than not, Gnome is deliberately hostile to both distro maintainers and end users to the point there are now four DEs that are "We can't do this anymore" forks of Gnome: MATE, Cinnamon, Unity and Cosmic. You'd probably see more people stick with Linux if it was less easy to stumble dick first into Gnome.

Now subtract the people who got this far and then said "My CAD/art/music/office/finance/whatever software doesn't run on this." and had to switch back. In a lot of cases, software like that exists in the FOSS ecosystem but it's significantly inferior, like FreeCAD or GIMP. These are often kept in a deliberately shitty state because some opinionated programmer likes how the code they wrote in 2004 looks in their IDE, so open software continues to be unadoptable and people continue to pay subscriptions to the Captain Planet villains in charge of Microsoft, Apple, Google and Adobe.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

North Koreans

north korea literally uses linux on their computers

kept in a deliberately shitty state

now thats just ignorance.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

now thats just ignorance.

Explain the permanent state of GIMP's UI without deliberate sabotage.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

lack of resources.

despite that, gimp's ui has been slowly but steadily improving for years. the latest iteration is not ideal but its a big qualitative jump and the best it has even been.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

does the average Korean citizen have a PC of their own?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

possibly, i'm not sure. i find it surprisingly hard to find information on nk in a language i can speak that's not obvious propaganda. i can tell they use linux because the os they use leaked, wish i knew more.

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