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We really don't know the extent of Gaza #genocide since there is no government in #Gaza to register the dead or missing any more. (freefree.ps)

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We really don't know the extent of Gaza #genocide since there is no government in #Gaza to register the dead or missing any more.

Only when Israeli occupation ends, we will be able to find out the real number of people murdered by #Israel in the past 21 months, and the number is much much larger than the official (verified) 60000.

Will that change the minds of the world about the evil that exist in psyche of the people in Israel who justify and defend this?

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[–] rzeta0@todon.eu 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@faab64 @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe @israel

I genuinely believe the Western world will somehow ignore the genocide and move on. They'll find it very easy because the genocide and their role in it is rather inconvenient to acknowledge. And many citizens will be more than happy to forget and ignore, because at the deepest level, they are less aligned with brown people than "one of us" people.

The uphill difficulty will be faced by those who want to ensure history preserves records of what happened, and by those that seek justice.

No-one has been put on trial for the Iraq war and the subsequent horrors. Lots of kids today weren't even born in 2003.

If winners write history, we can only get justice by winning.

[–] faab64@freefree.ps 4 points 1 week ago

@rzeta0 @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe @israel

I am afraid you are right.

I remember during the Rwandan genocide, we were a group of activists who worked hard to get Sweden and EU (Sweden was not part of EU back then) to react.

I still remember how happy we were when we heard that French special forces were sent to Rwanda, but later realized that the French troops were sent to guarantee the safety of the Hutu leaders, not many people remember that either!

https://www.humanrightspulse.com/mastercontentblog/frances-role-in-the-1994-rwandan-genocide

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've seen estimates running anywhere from 60k to 450k, and that's just people who have been murdered. No accounting for the number of people who have been maimed or orphaned. No idea how many people are fully homeless and destitute. No way to know how prolonged starvation will impact the survivors.

Every day, I feel like I'm getting a status report on the population of Auschwitz and half the time it's by the fucking Nazis. Just incredibly bleak.

[–] faab64@freefree.ps 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@UnderpantsWeevil

It is really depressing. I have been a human rights activist all my adult life, spent years covering the stories about atrocities all over the world, from Iran (where I was born and started my activities) to Rwanda, Bosnian, Myanmar, Yemen and Palestine.

I have NEVER seen this level of atrocities shared so publicly by those committing them without strong reaction from the public and politicians.

This is just an amazing fall of humanity into a whole new level!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

This is just an amazing fall of humanity

Don't sell humanity short. This is the textbook definition of Manufactured Consent. We've got a handful of fascists at the helm, dictating the world to the public at-large. And the more they lose control of the narrative, the worse the backlash at home becomes.

The US is tearing itself apart to perpetuate this genocide. Hell, we're doing our own brand of genocide from Columbia University to the streets of LA. One that's become nearly impossible to mask or to justify.

The tragedy is that it took this level of horror to galvanize a functional opposition. But there's nothing resembling a consensus on what has been done. The struggle among our people is What Is To Be Done?