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The Trump administration has come under mounting pressure from the president’s make America great again (Maga) base to release files on the case, including a supposed list of Epstein’s influential clients.

Trump, in response, has variously dismissed the existence of such files or said they were invented by Obama and members of his administration, including James Comey, the former FBI director, and Joe Biden, vice-president in the Obama administration.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Aren't the current and past Presidents immune from their actions while in acting position, according to the Supreme Court?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

That's only for Trump.

These things are not human. They have foresaken their own humanity in favor of their pursuit of power over others.

This only ends with their deaths.

Or ours.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

The actual traitor is pointing fingers

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago

Controversial statements keep the dicks and dickettes alive in the news cycle. That's what you do when you have no plan, possess no ethics, and have no personality.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

good, actually. this is what i want from the pussy ass democrats. I'm so sick of them watching from the sidelines already doing nothing while a republican cunt ravages through the world, bring warcrimes and devastation, only for a fuckass obama type to get elected with promises of change, and pardon said warcrimes to signal that next time they're free to do it all over again. fuck you obama. i wouldn't even be sorry if this went through, maybe you'll see how it's done. I'll count it for obama's own warcrimes anyway.

fuck Biden too. "he's a nazi. he's a fascist! he's an existential threat! oh here's the keys to the country by the way."

disingenuous fucks. capitulators and collaborators. i hope Mamdani's election will signal a new era and the geriatric party, proud defense force of the status quo, will burn to the ground.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 39 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I thought Presidents are immune for acts done in their capacity?

[–] Adler180@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Four legs good!

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.zip 10 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, this is their first attempt at distracting the public from the Epstein thing. Expect even more ridiculous shit to come out of these clowns in the next few weeks.

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 7 points 15 hours ago
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 59 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

I’ll be blunt: the fact that Obama did NOTHING when I’m fairly fucking positive there was a LOT of intelligence indicating orangeboi was the Manchurian Candidate is utterly damning. He was so fucking concerned about optics that he refused to move when a nascent existential danger with hostile external support was clearly rearing its head.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

He was so fucking concerned about optics

To be fair the media went apeshit because he wore a tan suit and used mustard on a sandwich!
With Trump it's like: "Oh and Trump sexually assaults women willy-nilly because he thinks he is entitled to it. But that's OK because that's just who he is."

If Obama had pushed for Trump to be arrested and accused on treason, USA might have ended up in civil war.
That task was not for Obama to do, it was for the judicial and security services. And yes they failed, possibly because security services are generally overwhelmingly right wing.

That said, I would have loved to see Trump in an Orange jump suit, he 100% deserves to be imprisoned for the rest of his life.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 14 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Then Trump was voted out 4 years later and voted back in again in 2024. People want a corrupt authoritarian ruling over them. Or at least they prefer that to a black lady.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago

an indian lady, but they see all brown as black people.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Not even sure the black part is relevant. They also voted for trump over a white lady in 2016.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago

with the help of russian interference, and comey who knowingly did this.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Refused to move? What did you expect him to do?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

He could have gone to his old reliable drone strike.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't be the first time Obama assassinated an American citizen,

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, and trump was outside the us around that time at least once. Oh how yesterdays horrors are today's wistful could have beens.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 10 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

So this really is Obama’s fault?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I don’t blame him for making the joke at orangeboi’s expense that evidently formed the kernel of spite and rage that made him decide to go for it.

I DO blame him for not taking the threat he posed seriously. Especially considering this is the standard dynamic between our two parties - one follows the rules and conventions and etiquette and expected decorum and wrings their hands about not being able to do something… and the other one doesn’t fucking care and just does it anyways.

So: yes.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is why Democrats lose elections Any excuse to cannibalize ourselves.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Democrats have made it clear they don't even have room for democratic socialists which is fair enough, they're liberals.

They just don't get to also whine and bitch about solidarity when socialists criticize them for the laziness and crimes.

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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 109 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So the Russian asset is accusing the Obama administration of falsely accusing Russia of something that everybody knows they not only did, but do as a matter of course?

It's not even as if the accusations are particularly noteworthy, They explicitly did not accuse the Trump campaign of seeking out or cooperating with the Russian interference - they just accuse Russia of interfering. As they do in every election (and as virtually every major world power does in virtually every election everywhere).

Trump is really desperate to shift attention away from Epstein, isn't he?

And Gabbard is really driving home the point that she has absolutely no integrity, principles or ethics.

Just another day in the decline and fall of the United States....

[–] relativestranger 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They explicitly did not accuse the Trump campaign of seeking out or cooperating with the Russian interference

"russia, if you're listening.."

"If you're listening" Great podcast if anyone is interested.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago

He seems to be rather desparate when you see what ideas he is throwing around to distract from his close relationship to Epstein.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago
[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 70 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Even if this conspiracy theory was even remotely true, and not a distraction to protect the pedophile-in-chief, wouldn't Obama have immunity for everything he did as president based on Trump's precedent?

[–] CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would require logical thinking though...

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Can't have that!

[–] Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social 5 points 22 hours ago

No no no, you misunderstood. Trump has immunity, no one else did or ever will.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wow, they're really trying to make this a thing. Fuck you Guardian and MSN:

Shitty headline on MSN: Tulsi Gabbard Uncovers 'Treasonous Conspiracy' Within Obama Admin, Releases Bombshell Documents

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tulsi-gabbard-uncovers-treasonous-conspiracy-within-obama-admin-releases-bombshell-documents/ar-AA1ISdLH

Edit: Also this

  • Tulsi Gabbard declared her residency in Texas. Then she voted in Hawaii

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/politics/tulsi-gabbard-texas-hawaii-voting-residency-invs/

  • Tulsi Gabbard Described as 'Advanced Devotee' in Alleged Cult

https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-science-identity-foundation-advanced-devoteee-hindu-1990506

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

she was pretended to be a DEM to undermind congress. her father was no better.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 hours ago

TIL that Tulsi Gabbard's Dad is the guy from Death Cab for Cutie...

I'm just kidding, I just made that up.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago

Wow, pulling out the Obama card already to distract from Epstein?

Obama was president in 2016 and therefore everything he did or didn't do was perfectly legal. That's how it works now, right? Unless you want to talk about 2021?

[–] peregrin5@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tulsi doing her job as a Russian agent well.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You come after Obama and there will be hell to pay.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Buddy, I appreciate the enthusiasm, but no one will do anything about anything.

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Really? Is that a sentiment American liberals really hold? Do you mean from Democrat politicians or from the general populace?

For the former, I think they've more than demonstrated their inability to hold anyone to account. From Biden nominating Obama's milquetoast, consensus Supreme Court pick to Attorney General, who proceeded to seemly slow walk Donald Trump's multiple federal prosecutions just long enough to make them all irrelevant and eventually dropped. To the current Congressional Democratic leadership who seem to think leadership is just empty gestures and who appear to have learned nothing from dealing with Republican obstructionism, when the shoe was on the other foot.

After the last six month though, I do have faith in Trump ability to exact revenge on this enemies and to get away with things previously considered to be an egregious overreach or illegal.

[–] PNW_Doug@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Man, they are really panicking.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 11 hours ago

she aired some of her grievances on a right wing asian youtubers channel(that turned right wing over the pandemic if followed the youtubers before) right before the election.

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