"By opening AND using this product (...)"
Have someone else open it for you, then consume the product yourself. Boom, no contract. Checkmate, lawyers!
this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2025
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So when my underage child opens this what's the plan? Clearly theyre not old enough to enter into an "legally" binding agreement, right?
Lol too bad they only wrote it in English
This is a real thing?
Lg tried it on refrigerators, even though refrigerators are not delivered in boxes.So the customer never receives them. The delayed or denied every warranty claim on their stupid 2 stage refrigerant pump, then said since the customer opened the box with the terms agreement that they couldn't sue. It took more than a year to resolve just that there could be a class action lawsuit against LG.
I'm gonna need some good news soon. This dystopia just keeps getting worse and worse.
The good news is that these things pass, buddy. All things pass, and it's almost over really. This economy, this president, they won't last forever. This country, this current set of land masses, this current set of planets. It's all gonna just...pass. Gonna be just one drop in a lake of space and an ocean of time. Gonna be pressed into a microscopic crease in the fabric of a spacetime already contorted by titanic folds of incomprehensible number and arrangement. Until it can hardly be said to have happened at all.
hilarious. I think they're doing you a favor so you don't have to buy this product ever again
Vital Proteins got bought out by Nestle and almost immediately turned to shit iirc
I didn't know this—time to shop for a new collagen supplement.
Isn't that an illegally forced agreement? I mean, the consumer already bought the product and is forced to enter an agreement after the fact? At least it feels like it would be illegal.
It's the same with software, sure, but somehow I've been brainwashed into thinking it's ok because it's a digital product/I only agree to a license of said product.
Def illégal in Germany. You can't force an arbitration agreement.
If this is in the US you are 1 year away before companies can run Squid Games, "illegally forced agreement" is a thing of the past
awesome, I hope the hunger games are only a few decades away
Squid Game at least honor the votes to end the game, IRL they'll just cancel elections lmfao.
Well they do hide their own guy amongst the players who can influence the vote
By reading this comment, you agree to be bound eternally in thrall to me, and wear a maid dress for my amusement.
So when do I get the dress?
Post a PO box and I'll send it over.
Jokes on you I'm into that shit
There should be an "protest buy" action to any the products that do this bullshit. A large group of people buy the products and then return them to the store for a refund. Especially for perishable goods, this would make them worthless. Which would make stocking such products a loss and force the vendors and manufacturers to cut the shit out.
Be careful, if you do a "protest buy", they may legally be able to not accept the return since you already knew about the contract. So you know, either don't do it or at least don't post on social media about it.
Well, the top cap apparently needs to be torn off to read the sentence, lowering the shelf appeal of the product even though there are other tamper-evident seals present.
Time to use the box cutter and open it from the bottom.
Yeah they really slipped up by saying "and" using it, as opposed to "or".
I'm going to gnaw into it like a little rat.
They’re bringing back Prima Nocta.
Mandatory arbitration agreement for a protein shake or whatever it is. First it may not be enforceable. Second it makes me think that this product is not fit for consumption.
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No way this is legally binding. It amounts to a bait and switch. A product was purchased and provided without agreement to any further terms. Then they sneak in supposed terms after the fact based upon the action of opening the product. That is a change in agreement made without any consideration for the purchaser. That's not generally allowed in contact law.
Furthermore, I really doubt that they can get away with the argument that the act of opening a product can constitute any amount of conscious agreement to some writing on a package. If for no other reason than that this is (afaik) a novel way to attempt to coerce agreement such that nobody would expect such an agreement to be part of the opening process and likely won't notice it.
And it's not accessible for every person who may be using this product even if they do notice the words. Are you a non-English speaker? Farsighted? Blind? Illiterate? Would you have any way to even be aware that those words are terms that somehow binding you to an agreement by virtue of your opening the thing you just bought? Would you have any reason to even suspect that that is the case?
Also, they'll undoubtedly claim that the fact that you have the opened product means that you agreed to the terms, but that is also not the case. Your mom opened it for you and wrapped it as a gift? You bought it secondhand? The packaging was torn open when it shipped to you and you never had any reason to see this text in the first place? It was misprinted? Any of those things and more would mean you never agreed to anything. And they have no way to prove any of those things weren't the case.
Just stupid. I have zero doubt that any number of lawyers would love take this to court and get that payday.
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It says you're bound by "opening and using" the product, rather than "opening or using". Have someone else open it for you. Then neither of you have done both.
Go one step further and have someone under 18 who cannot legally enter into a contract open it haha
Thus is the kind of legalistic bullshit interpretation I can get right behind
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What is it?
Delevoping liver issues, that's what it is.
aka Protein powder
This got me curious because I've never heard of this, atleast according to this study it does not cause liver issues if you use it properly, aka you exercise and don't just drink it casually.
"The results showed that when whey protein is used in an uninformed manner and without exercising, adverse effects on the liver may occur by increasing the apoptotic signal in the short term and increasing inflammatory markers and hepatotoxicity in the long term." - link
Yes, that's the reason, not that it's generally bad. I shouldve clarified.
It's way too easy to take too much. Most people just take their whole daily dose or more with those drinks and forgetting that they get protein from the regular food as well. Most people don't even know how much protein their body is able to process in a day.
Add too much magnesium to it and your blood tests will show how bad it is for you, and your doctor will get mad at you.
We don't need this unless youre doing Sport all day long.
This is Vital Proteins brilliant response to being taken to court over heavy metal and "foreign materials" contamination in their products.
I'm sure they definitely didn’t think removing all those pesky "foreign materials" and next-gen metals from they products...
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There's an easy solution: keep buying it, break the seal to get to the message, then return it. Have your friends do the same, at the same store. Pretty soon that product will be gone and you can move on to the next store.
If the store starts to bitch about it, you can claim that you wanted to see if the statement had been removed.
Is there a bigger red flag than a message on it saying 'if you break this seal you can't sue us!'
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