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[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is really market share against Microsoft, not Mac. For good reason too, Microsoft is working very hard to ruin their company. They’re losing a lot of ground to Mac as well, especially in the small business sector where many things are web based now anyways. Run an MSP and we’ve had quite a few clients get fed up with inconsistent updates and repeated dumb problems.. looking at you WSD and printing.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh don’t worry. Apple has been working very hard on enshitifyjng their OS. They just don’t get reported on as much as Microsoft.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I worked for an MSP that supported an all-Mac environment. Got real tired of telling people that their problem was a well-known bug in Mac that Apple has ignored for over 10 years and would probably never be fixed. I had to give that explanation a lot, for many different issues.

At least with Windows people expect problems like that. Mac people refuse to believe anything could possibly be Apple's fault.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I had a Mac user chew me out for putting on a non-Apple mouse that JUST DOESN'T WORK ON MAC!!!1! Found out that he'd used the non-Apple mouse fine for about a month, then changed his desk to one with a glass top, and wasn't using a mousepad. So the laser just shot through the clear glass and did fuck-all. Didn't even have the decency to look abashed when I tossed a magazine down as a mousepad for him until we could get him some artist-approved mousepad bullshit. Fucking ad agencies are full of twats.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

where many things are web based now anyways

https://xkcd.com/934/

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, Randall knows about xmonad?

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[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Thanks Microsoft!

[–] emb@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I wonder if SteamDeck counts toward desktop share here? It kinda is a desktop OS, even though it's mainly used on a handheld device. Either way, I think that contributes a lot to normalization and stability of the ecosystem, if not device count.

The big factor though is probably just a shrinking market. For people that aren't computer nerds or businesses, it's getting less likely they own a laptop or desktop, and more likely they think their phone is good enough.

[–] emn316@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Only if Steam Decks are being counted by StatCounter

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[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

I was wondering if Linux would break 5% in global stats. Can I expect that? I am still not sure.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Are they counting Steamdecks?

Or what is the scope?

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They count based on useragent info from accesses to websites using statcounter analytics.

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[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Unless they track Steam Deck specific fingerprints the OS may be classified as Arch, but either way: yes, every Steam Deck counts as a Linux system out of the box.

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