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Stellantis abandons hydrogen fuel cell development (arstechnica.com)
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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Finally, there's virtually no infrastructure for hydrogen road vehicles to refuel.

I would argue this is by far the biggest issue with hydrogen fuel. Other drawbacks could arguably be addressed with scale and additional work.

It's just that hydrogen actually kinda sucks as a fuel, and automaker Stellantis announced today that it is ending the development of its light-, medium- and heavy-duty FCEVs, which were meant to go into production later this year.

Meant to go in production later this year? I doubt anyone at Stellantis believed this.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would argue this is by far the biggest issue with hydrogen fuel. Other drawbacks could arguably be addressed with scale and additional work.

That's still the biggest problem with EVs. If the technology is sound, it shouldn't matter - they'd be pushing it anyway.

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it? Every house in my neighborhood has a 240V power line running to it, with 100A service typical.

There isn't a single hydrogen fuel station in my entire state.

Power delivery seems like basically a solved issue, Level 2 charging is attainable for practically all households with minimal personal investment; and Level 3 charging is mostly an investment in the physical stations to rectify AC to high voltage DC, the wires that carry the AC are already there.

[–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 2 days ago

I agree with the other person as an EV owner, myself. I charge at home, yeah, but road trips are a bitch to do in an EV, as it is, for one example.

Granted, apps like PlugShare and my EV’s navigation system help plan routes, but it’s still got a lot of range anxiety that you might end up with a dead battery somewhere.

Too often do I go to a station on the map and the cables are cut by some vandal or the machine simply isn’t working for one reason or another or it’s being hogged by someone who is using it as their personal campground/personal free charger and they live a block away or it’s just being a pain for no reason, like a lot of Shell chargers at Amazon stores, Kohls, etc. Tesla superchargers are the only real working solution here that are always dependable for me but they’re not everywhere and the recent vandalism against them made it worse in some places for anyone to reliably charge.

It’s not on the same level as hydrogen station availability is, for sure, and the convenience of charging at home helps, but doesn’t do much when out and about far from home.

I went to pick up some family up at our nearby airport and it was insane how many places gave me issues trying to find a charger to top off my range. This place was hogged, that place was broken, that place didn’t exist, that one was only for the dealership…finally had to just bite the bullet and waste 10 miles to get to a Tesla supercharger that had 11 spots available and in 8 minutes of charging, I was back on the road. Took me less time charging than I did driving everywhere to find a charger.

Range is still really crappy on new vehicles barely touching 300 miles in some cases, which decreases quickly in the first year by at least 20-50 miles and more as time goes on. We’re seeing more touching 400, but I’m skeptical of their estimates. I did see one with 1,000 out of China, but really wondering how they’re managing to pull that off and how truthful it is in real world use.

Again, definitely not on the same level of hydrogen, but for those used to gasoline and the convenience of finding a gas station in the middle of the Mojave desert or the convenience of carrying a Jerry can, EVs are still somewhat near this level. I’m honestly amazed since electricity is literally everywhere that the system is the way it is. I feel frustrated knowing electricity is flowing through those wires above and yet I could still end up stranded somewhere because of one reason or another.

[–] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

I bought stocks of Ballard Power years ago when hydrogen cells were going to be The Next Big Thing. Not many stocks thankfully, because it slipped further and further and then got delisted. It seems to be one of those things like airships that gets revived every 20 years or so.