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[OC] What People Think Privacy/Security Is (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by Charger8232@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I know there are plenty of software missing from here. This is just a fun infographic I made, no need to take it seriously :)

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[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 days ago

OP would not recognize a threat model if it bit him in the ass.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 12 points 6 days ago

I'll go further than this and say that true security is where everybody has support enough to not want to steal your shit, hack you etc.

Yeah corporations and governments are still a problem, for now, but both of the above parties would be far more secure if they did mutual aid, supported progrms to help the impoverished etc etc.

Basically having a collective approach to security and not such a myopic individualistic one.

[–] lock@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

How is iCloud not secure or privacy focused? You make no sense with this list. iOS is insanely secure compared to stock android.

[–] _LordMcNuggets_@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

what's Anubis?

[–] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A tool to slow down web crawlers (instead of making you solve captcha puzzles)

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Anubis is so lightweight you'll forget it's there until you look at your hosting bill.

I don't know if they realize this is implying it's onerously expensive, lol.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 4 points 6 days ago

That amused me, too.

I think it plays fine for the intended audience, though.

For the folks looking into Anubis, that line plays well - because hosting costs are driven up by the kinds of spam bot visits that Anubis slows down.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

What's nuts is that what made Anubis' author go down that path was Amazon Bot (I remember precisely because they are the bot that also blew up my logs and thus forced me to take action against LLM scrappers) and... a significant share of the Web is hosted on AWS. So... Amazon is actually probably MAKING money by scrapping, no matter how inefficiently. I already hated Amazon but this is even worst than I imagined. It's probably not by design, to be fair, but it's also probably not something they'll invest into "fixing" as it's making them money. What an absolute human centipede situation.

[–] commander@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

The hardest online privacy is not operating in a way that just links all your "private" activity because you logged in around enough places to link them together and at least one place somewhere can be linked to your real identity

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

proton VPN

lol. lmao, even.

[–] UltraMasculine@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's wrong with it?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

proton has already shared user details with authorities.

[+] kadup@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

except they shared the IP address of an account even though they state "No personal information is required to create your secure email account. By default, we do not keep any IP logs which can be linked to your anonymous email account. Your privacy comes first." on their homepage

[–] andronicus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

It's right there in your copy-paste my dude, "BY DEFAULT".

The jackass(es) who actually was at risk went the extra step to enable IP address logging, which means that when Proton had to comply with a lawful court order, they actually had data to give.

Proton is a company like any other that has to comply with laws in the country they operate in, but unlike a lot of other companies, they don't log data UNLESS YOU ASK THEM TO.

Moral of the story is, like has oft been repeated, know your threat model and plan appropriately.

[–] UltraMasculine@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If I understood correctly from Proton's privacy policy, VPN does not log IP addresses but at least in some circumstances Mail does. This is from their privacy policy:

Due to limitations of the SMTP protocol, we have access to the following email metadata: sender and recipient email addresses, the IP address incoming messages originated from, attachment name, message subject, and message sent and received times.

One thing must be remembered: Even Proton must follow the law and rules.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Pretty sure banks have a pretty good track record of "keeping your money safe". Why the fork would anybody trust banks to keep their money safe if they can't keep your money safe?

I don't really understand why that statement is even on there?

Unless you mean to argue some anonimity point, which I could agree with considering e.g. Monero would be more anonymous than a bank.

But safe? I'd say the bank is quite safe to store money.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

any bank that has the capacity to close your account without you explicitly requesting it should not be considered safe.

fucking cip errors deleted my account

whoever invented cip errors should be defenestrated at the earliest convenience

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Money in the bank can be seized and frozen for all sorts of reasons. If you're in the USA, then police can charge your money with a crime even if you haven't broken any laws. It's safe until it's not.

[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Doesn't have to be in the bank either; if you're traveling with your life savings in cash, then if you get pulled over cops are likely to seize that money. Just because fuck you, that's why.

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[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

crypto currency

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Well, unlike Bitcoin, Monero is actually anonymous, and sometimes you gotta make payments online.

You can't do it privately with your card.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org -3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yep, anonymous right up until its use burns the world to the ground.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 6 days ago

Monero transactions consume orders of magnitude less energy than Bitcoin's thanks to an ASIC-resistant algorithm

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Security isn’t the size of the app, it’s how you use it :)

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