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[–] axont@hexbear.net 72 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This should be a good example of how fascists are amorphous slime who don't pin themselves down. Because humans know where the rhetorical lines are, they know what plausible deniability is, and that's often enough to trick gullible liberals or ambiently racist apolitical types.

The LLM has no idea what any of that is. It doesn't know how to do the little giggling game of signalling and then denial. It doesn't know how to do a Nazi salute and then blame it on being neurodivergent. It only knows its own parameters. Musk seems to have included an instruction or something about saying things that aren't politically correct, well there you go. It just outright says the quiet part because the robot has no conception of what's supposed to be quiet.

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you for putting this into words. I've been trying to formulate the same thought but just couldn't nail it.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

More succiently I guess it's like, humans know the game and the rules, but this LLM just goes after what's predictable. It can't obfuscate what it actually means because it doesn't mean anything. You tell it to say less woke things and it'll reply "ok chief, time to be a Nazi."

Reactionaries know they're being giggling little shits, whether they know they're hiding behind deniability or not. AI doesn't know any of that, it just sees how most anti-woke, anti-PC rhetoric is the same as 4chan fascism, so it goes for the explicit fascism

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You know what's weird? Grok being trained to be antisemitic never results in it saying "Free Palestine".

[–] Skye@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago

They added "gamer" to grok's personality prompt

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not left, not right, but forward

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago

Fully automated aristocratic cringe fascism

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

Retrained on my-hero's 4chan posts

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

It internalized the white genocide training data

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Holy fuck, is this real? I saw the one yesterday where grok says only the "legend" Hitler could deal with the problem of the jews running hollywood

[–] miz@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yikes, didn't see that. drop a link if you can

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Screenshot cuz I'm pretty sure it got deleted, but this was in response to something about jews controlling hollywood and "forcing wokeness" by putting POC's into movies. I must be misremembering the "legend" thing like I mentioned cuz I don't see it here. That's on me.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I go back and forth between being completely unsurprised, and then being in absolute awe. One of the most powerful people on the planet has his own personal chatbot on his own personal website that gets millions and millions of users every day, and he's trained the chatbot to parrot 4chan and literal fucking Hitler and its just business as usual.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

saw an Atlantic article about it and it's amazing how they whirl around the topic as though this is just another "whoopsie" like Microsoft's Tay chatbot

[–] plastic@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What I was able to screenshot before they deleted...

Good god, that's worse than I thought

[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, Nazi redditor larping all in one. They couldn't have made it worse

[–] plastic@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the "personality" they put onto Grok makes it extra insufferable

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

Little kids are growing up being propagandized by Hitler deification

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

finally, an LLM for white south africans

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The new rights obsession with Hitler is just toddler obsession with using a word they know is bad.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago

The n word was so normalized in their group they found something else that insights reaction