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[–] egeres@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Really apple? And they did all that mother nature bullshit with octavia spencer while it was europe who forced them to use a universal connector and stop polluting the world with useless pathetic cables

[–] p000l@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 years ago

A $5 Pen drive transfers data faster. Some day, Apple will be able to figure how to do this in a multi hundred dollar phone. Need more MBAs.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Apple gonna Apple.

[–] Kjatten@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Are they really this spiteful? Wow

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

so very apple to punish it's own users because they have too many old components they need to use up, but if you're paying for PRO you get actual 2023 modern USB.

so very, very apple.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bro what modern it’s USB 3.0 lmao

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago

USB 3.0 is already 15 years old.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago

the adaptor is usb3, the controller interface limits you to usb 2.0 speed. what part of the article was hard to comprehend?

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

One last little 'f you for making us do this'

Whatever, still better than lightning.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's funny (or sad I guess) that the current generation of laptops are back on mag chargers (I forget what they're called) instead of USB C. There was never a time when both iPhones and MacBooks used USB C charging.

[–] uint8_t@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you can use either the magsafe or USB-C PD, both works

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry, should've clarified I meant the one that came with it in the box

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The cable that comes in the box is MagSafe, but the power brick is usb-c

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Sorry, should've clarified I meant the end of the cord that comes in the box that you're meant to plug into the laptop

[–] PotatoOnceCame@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago

Haven't used that charger since day 1 of receiving my work MBP M1. I just plug it into a Thunderbolt dock that supports usb-pd

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago

they don't care because apple punishes the poors at every opportunity anyway. soldered on ram & ssd's on their laptops for fucks sake

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is why companies like Apple are malicious.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So - in your opinion - any company shipping a USB 2 device is 'malicious'?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Apple was forced by the EU to stop using their old and worse connector

So they're complying, but they're purposefully limiting the less expensive phone as a malicious compliance to that

Pretty simple really

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Lightning connectors are definitely worse than USB-C, but when they were introduced the alternative was micro USB which is objectively worse than Lightning cables.

Of course, with wireless charging I haven't used an actual cable in five years so it doesn't matter that much to me.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So lightning cables offer transfer rates of 480Mb/s - USB 2.0 offers 625Mb/s. You are cross that they swapped out Lightning for USB on the main models and use USB 3 as a differentiator in the Pro models. Fair enough, but that's not 'malicious'. It's not even malicious compliance.

[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

USB 2.0 is also 480Mbps.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You obviously don't get the point. Educate yourself on Apple and USB-C, please.

[–] June@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You mean the Apple that provided more than 20% of the engineering force that developed USBC?

Or the Apple that released the first USBC laptop to market?

That Apple?

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Or the apple that fought against USB-C for their phones since basically forever and now implemented it with USB 2? Yes, this one.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

It doesn't sound like you actually have a rebuttal.

[–] lorez@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If the aim of a company is to maximize profits then every company in Apple's stead would do the same thing. Not defending it but that's the world we created.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

More like standard capitalism. The usb c connectors are not slower then the lightning connectors so its not like they made it worse. They simply refused to make it better.

A bit like Nvidia continuing to maken better gpu chips but refusing to have them release with a more VRAM.

If course in a way, all for profit-companies are malicious. Extracting surplus value from workers and such.

[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh good, the weekly “Apple is the worst company in the world” post.

[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

Apple makes sure there's no shortage of reasons why we have these weekly posts

[–] brunofin@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

I know it sounds awful but on the other hand Linus explains why it's like that in this video https://youtu.be/7KuLMe6KSVQ?si=DAdNH3JlZ4HShIYZ

Not trying to justify it, just it's good to know why.

[–] NumerousGeorg@geddit.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Welcome to the Android world where even good smartphones worth 400 $ only support USB 2.0

[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My cheap android phones have had usb3 for like 5 years =\

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Most Androids still only get USB2.0, but not the ones that are in the price range of the iPhone.

Edit: Feels like I'm back on Reddit with people not reading my comment, I just said that although most units of Android phones are budget to mid-range, mine being a mid-range (Poco F3), Android phones anywhere near the range of an iPhone in Cost is USB 3.0+

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My phone is 6 years old at this point, was only $350, and uses USB-C.

[–] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 1 points 2 years ago

USB-C is a connector and, by itself, says nothing about the protocol in use. That’s the important part.

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fact that the Pro (or any device) supports a newer USB protocol doesn't necessarily mean that it will be able to take advantage of the full speed. It might just be as slow as the non Pro with USB 2.0.

[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

iPhone 15 Pro tech specs page: “USB 3 (up to 10Gb/s)” with a footnote that says “USB 3 cable with 10Gb/s speed required.”

A regular need for high-speed data transfers is legitimately a “pro” use case. You need the Pro model and you need to buy a thick, stiff high-speed cable.

[–] DestroyerOfWorlds@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apple:

We had two children. Conner (yay! so handsome!!😍) and....erm, ugh...Billy. We don't play favorites! Conner gets driven to private school, plays lacrosse, and has a tutor. Billy takes the bus to public school across town, has a sack lunch, and we broke his legs when he learned to walk because he was smaller than Conner.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’re literally describing every product line ever.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Wait til this guy finds out about CARS

[–] Shurimal@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago

Frankly, who even uses the USB port on their phone for data transfers unless it's an emergency? I just stream media from my NAS using Navidrome and Jellyfin, use Syncthing to back up my photos and sync files I need, and mount the SMB shares I need to access. The eMMC and SD cards are slower than USB 3 speeds, anyway. Most SD cards don't even max out USB 2.

The only sensible real life use case for USB 3 for phones would be external monitors.