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Does this mean we dont get to be tracked, data mined, ad-bombed, and exploited while our teens dont get depressed and sick from "social" media?

Well, if thats the price we pay, thats the price we pay... :)

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If the products or "products" being withheld are deemed useful by their users, you're bound to have someone filling the gap created by the butthurt tech giants leaving. Without all the associated data vulturing.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say "capitalism", given that some of the alternatives filling the gap to be non-commercial in nature.

[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Free market economy at its best

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we're really lucky, those replacements might even become competition for the original products outside the EU, and drive the data vultures out of business.

(Something has to go right in this timeline eventually, right?)

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (9 children)

What’s the easiest EU country to emigrate to?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have no human principles, Hungary. You just have to buy some papers for it. Maybe learn a hard and useless language. But definitely love corruption and the suffering of other humans.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is not true. You need to have years of presence OR have Hungarian ancestry and a few years less presence OR be married to a Hungarian for a couple years. Top this off with being able to know the Hungarian language.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not if you buy the letelepedési kötvény (immigration bonds).

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[–] knotthatone@lemmy.one 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is more bark than bite, imo. They're just threatening to withhold products at this point, but as the article points out:

  • Europe's a big market and profit focused companies aren't going to give that up just to make a point
  • Those that do will just encourage European competition to step up and fill whatever gaps might appear, which is just fine by the EU.

So... go right ahead. Let's see how this really plays out.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

And the products they are threatening to withhold are exactly the products we don't want. Last time the tech giants threatened to leave entirely the EU asked when to plan the going away party. The current tactic from the giants isn't much better

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Same argument for any case where cooperations bitch and whine about regulations.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

"Don't threaten me with a good time"

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Meta has decided not to release a new multimodal AI model and related products in the EU.

The move follows a similar decision last month by Apple to withhold its new Apple Intelligence features from Europe."

Oh no. Wait. Come back.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

wow so they're holding back on wasteful broken products?Seems like win win

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You're tearing me apart lisa!

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Apple reversed log standing design policy to put a USB C charger in the iPhone because not selling iPhones in Europe was not a financially viable option.

  • Apple won't launch their AI features in Europe because changing to comply with regulations is too hard

These features aren't that important then I guess?

[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

This is a total win for Europeans.

Bring more Europe to the US. Lol

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's working to me.

Zuckbot, comply with GDPR or forget about EU.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In this case I think it’s the DMA they’re butthurt about.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago

The article mentions both. Meta is still complaining about GDPR.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Really hope so.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If your "product" is stealing my information for your "AI" or extorting me to buy "dongles", then please "withhold" it.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Corpo propaganda at it again...

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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 7 points 1 year ago

You might think that but you're missing cool thing like, ah.. the metaverse..?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

Oh.... no... please.... do not do that...

Anyways

[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

oh no, not the products!

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

Oh dear, how sad, never mind

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Could they withhold their existence while we're at it?..

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Threatening a dog with a weiner I see. That's a bold strategy.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Oh no! Anyway...

[–] abrinael@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s too bad the websites that do this don’t have to put a label on it in the U.S. Something like “Not for consumption in the E.U.” to make people wonder what’s going on.

[–] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m struggling with this as a website operator. I don’t have any third-party tracking, no external assets, nothing and I’m dying to put up a cookie banner stating as such even though it’s totally unnecessary and annoying.

[–] Imperor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do not have to put up a cookie banner when you are only using technically required ones ornnone at all. Make a dedicated cookies page in your footer and have a table with every cookie, their name, their description and use as well as how long they last.

If you have none, put that info on that page. All you need to do.

That’s what I was saying: that it isn’t required but it would be nice to advertise I’m not doing anything shady.

Great advice on the cookie listing page though. I haven’t considered that.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This just in: good time threatened. O no

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago

USA only wishes we were this cool.

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice! Thank you EU for the GDPR!

For the next step, please let the companies that produce software be held accountable for damages. For Nonprofits change the target to associated companies. Also punish the people responsible, like the developers, for their software and choice of used libraries. If the library was insufficiently supported by the developer, then the developer has no ground to sue for damages themselves.

[–] mr_strange@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also punish the people responsible, like the developers, for their software and choice of used libraries.

What??

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[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This escalation will continue,

until big-tech forces the governments to kneel to the surveillance-capitalism biggest:

They will simply say something like:

"Either your government removes laws, regulations, accountability, etc, from us,

XOR we are hamstringing your country: we OWN you, we POSSESS you, & you will obey OUR rule."

I guarantee this will be happening between now & 2036.

Remember how they can ratchet-up a genocide, anywhere??

They've already done so, in some places..

( Facebook & .. was it Myanmar? as 1 example )

_ /\ _

[–] DSTGU@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I upvoted purely for using xor in regular speech

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

until big-tech forces the governments to kneel to the surveillance-capitalism biggest:

You think governments are resisting?

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does this mean we dont get to be tracked, data mined, ad-bombed, and exploited while our teens dont get depressed and sick from "social" media?

Nah you still get all of that but in a shitter product.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May I introduce you to our friend and saviour, the GDPR regulations?

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