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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4380117

CW: Contains the N-word- Chinese propaganda leaflets during the Korean War made specifically for black Americans soldiers (1950).

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I read through twice, but unless I missed an instance— "Negro" is not the N-word.

[–] SovietReporter@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It is a dated slur. It is one of the forms of the N-word.

The Chinese didn’t mean it as a slur back then since it was a common word to refer to black people, but nowadays, it is a slur.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago

Important context here is that it was not considered a slur at the time.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the CW is probably still warranted but I wouldn't say that it's THE N-word

[–] SovietReporter@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago

As I mentioned previously: It is a dated slur. It is one of the forms of the N-word.

The Chinese didn’t mean it as a slur back then since it was a common word to refer to black people, but nowadays, it is a slur.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

Locking this thread due to pedantic debate pervertism. Do not equate these two words, it's not the same as the N-word and addressing it as such can be seen as unintentionally undermining the historical significance of the actual N-word in question.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 10 months ago

I forget which book of his, but Losurdo describes how during the war on Korea, as part of the "indoctrination" of captured US soldiers, they would just show them a map of US military bases in SE Asia. Most of them were stunned because they had no idea, and would sympathize with not wanting foreign military bases right on your borders.

I guarantee most anglos have no idea the sheer scale and number of US military bases outside their own borders.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

Meanwhile the PSAs at home

[–] ChairmanSpongebob@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

when they're right, they're right. no lies detected

[–] Teapot@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In case you don't know, negro means black in Spanish

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are we really, on hexbear, pretending that "Negro" is not a slur in American English in 2024. What are we doing here

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True, but it was also the preferred term used by anti-imperialist black leaders for most of the 20th century. Read anything by WEB Dubois, Malcolm X, Robeson, Nkrumah, MLK, etc.

[–] Delphinium@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"One of the reasons that it is bad for us to continue to just refer to ourselves as the so-called Negro, that's negative. When we say so-called Negro that's pointing out what we aren't, but it isn't telling us what we are. We are Africans, and we happen to be in America. We are not Americans. We are a people who formerly were Africans who were kidnaped and brought to America. Our forefathers weren't the Pilgrims. We didn't land on Plymouth Rock; the rock was landed on us. We were brought here against our will; we were not brought here to be made citizens. We were not brought here to enjoy the constitutional gifts that they speak so beautifully about today. Because we weren't brought here to be made citizens--today, now that we've become awakened to some degree, and we begin to ask for those things which they say are supposedly for all Americans, they look upon us with a hostility and unfriendliness" -Malcolm X

malcolm-checks

[–] SovietReporter@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Yep, but it is a dated slur in English . Poison means fish in French, but that doesn’t apply to English.

[–] Teapot@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] EcoMaowist@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if anybody actually took these words to heart...

[–] Pili@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

N-word aside (which I believe the usage was common at the time so we could excuse it?), that's one increadibly based leaflet.

But at the same time, I imagine it wouldn't be a good idea for black soldiers to defect in the middle of the conflict.

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

~~How is literally every comment on this about how "Negro" is not the N-Word, how is that the only thing people are talking about.~~ All but one

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

because censoring negro in a historical document is the height of silliness and clickbaity.

[–] Sphere@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, like are we gonna put a CW on the "I Have a Dream" speech?

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

EXACTLY! what are we doing here people??