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Choosing Beggars

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 77 points 2 years ago (3 children)

She probably got paid like $4 an hour to serve people food.

You're not wrong for not tipping $5. She wasn't wrong for wanted/needing/hoping for a 33% tip.

The employer is likely in the wrong for running a restaurant where it's staff are specifically underpaid to put the burden on their customers to pay them so don't go broke/stay broke.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So don't work that job. Shit pay should result in nobody working there.

It shouldn't result in an expectation of the customers to pay your wage in an unspoken random amount on top of their bill

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

don't work that job

Unionizing across the industry and striking would go a longer way towards that goal.

And it shouldn't result in workers being paid an unlivable wage but here we are...

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So don’t work that job. Shit pay should result in nobody working there.

Oh yeah everyone can just go to the job store and get a new job at-will and there are absolutely no external factors that could impact that. Clearly they work for minimum wage + tips at a thankless job serving people like you out of their passion for the work.

[–] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago

Yes, jobs are extremely easy to come by everywhere and everyone gets to do their ideal work, anytime they want.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

If you didn't get tips would you work for a restaurant for an abysmal wage? Or look elsewhere

[–] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Strap on your job helmet!

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It shouldn't, no. But there's a $2.13 an hour minimum wage for tipped employees. Employers have to fill the gap to $7.25 if tips don't cover it, but the simple matter is the law facilitates the expectation customers pay tips.

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

7 States and DC don't have a tipped minimum wage.

In CA it's $15.50 currently with our without tips.

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And don't forget the colonies of puerto Rico and Guam

[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's almost like there are 50 states or something...

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Dude don’t be an ass you know what I am saying. 43 states don’t do what you’re talking about. 7 do. That’s not “many” and many of don’t live in those places.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Uh huh.

So stop working those jobs.

You're literally agreeing to work for $2.13 an hour. Would you do that at any other job? Fuck no!

Anything else you get is just kindness.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I mean, I don't. I know people who have had to work terrible jobs serving food because there are work requirements to their medicaid benefits and such.

It'd be great if exploitative jobs were eliminated. But the legal minimum is generally what the market pressures businesses to run with.

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] drekly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's always a choice. Nobody HAS to work in a restaurant for tips

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is profoundly ignorant. Sorry, it just is. You need to read up on this stuff man.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago

She wasn't wrong for wanted/needing/hoping for a 33% tip.

33% tip is absolutely ridiculous

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there some world where the cost of increasing employee pay isn't also going to "burden" the customer with commensurate higher costs for the service/goods? Getting rid of tipping is a fine idea for many reasons, but not because it's a cost burden for customers. The customer will partially pay the wages of employees for services they use and goods they consume, either through tipping or increased costs.

The reasons to get rid of tipping is not to save customers money.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The burden I meant wasn't the money spent itself but the responsibility to cover it directly.

In the context of wages not rising with the costs of living, employers increasingly are passing the responsibility to pay their tipped employees onto consumers, intentionally or not.

If the employer pays their employees a living wage and increases their costs, then they are taking direct responsibility. In that environment you don't even need to eliminate tipping. Tips would be the bonuses they're (culturally) intended to be.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So you're not even actually talking about tipping at all. You're just saying you want a minimum wage to be a living wage. Unless you're implying that minimum wages jobs that don't pay a living wage and that you don't expect to tip are fine, and I'm confident that's not what you mean.