Today, 20 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, 57 percent, or an absolute majority, of eastern Germans defend the former East Germany. "The GDR had more good sides than bad sides. There were some problems, but life was good there," say 49 percent of those polled. Eight percent of eastern Germans flatly oppose all criticism of their former home and agree with the statement: "The GDR had, for the most part, good sides. Life there was happier and better than in reunified Germany today."

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Around 1/3 of the GDR population fled to the DDR or other nations. If nothing else, the polling would be among those that remained.

[–] Akasazh -3 points 2 years ago

the German wall came down when he was 10.

And

"Not even half of young people in eastern Germany describe the GDR as a dictatorship, and a majority believe the Stasi was a normal intelligence service," Schroeder concluded in a 2008 study of school students. "These young people cannot, and in fact have no desire to, recognize the dark sides of the GDR."

It's not hard to be nostalgic if you dream up an utopia. Then again most nostalgic thoughts ignore the reality, but these younglings coupled with boomers from the generation that voted brexit through in Britain are on another level.

[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People miss the GDR because it's antiestablishment and because a lot of people want what they don't have. If the GDR was to exist again (and definitely after they made one or another fuck-up) people would want a united Germany again. This is the same reason why opposition parties usually fair better during the next election.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If the GDR was to exist again people would want a united Germany again

True, but it would be the GDR annexing West Germany this time 😍

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Stalin's biggest mistake was stopping at Berlin

[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago

I've got nothing against the GDR ideology wise but I value criticism. I want it to be heard, not repressed, because you can learn more from your critics than from those who cheer you and repressing it will not actually make anything better, but worse. And it saves you a lot of time and money that you can use on things that really matter.

In general I'd prefer a government to be open towards criticism and transparent in their actions. I know that governments like this are practically non existent but let me just dream for a second.

So if the GDR was more open towards criticism I'd take it back.

[+] 50gp@kbin.social -6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

go volunteer in Russia if you love it so much

[–] Navaryn@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

says the guy cheering for ukrainian people to be sent to be slaughtered just to slow down russia and rake in some millions for the MIC

[+] 50gp@kbin.social -6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

nice projection, like I said if you love getting fucked in the ass by dictators move there yourself

[–] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

if you love getting fucked in the ass.

This is homophobic

[–] Navaryn@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

lol i don't "love" Putin. You can see that in my other comments.

What i am saying is that your side is the one cheering for even more arms shipments so that even more ukrainians can be sent to die in an unwinnable war to "teach russia a lesson". Literally no one here is arguing in favour of shipping arms to russia or supporting them in any meaningful manner.

The truth is, that much like the collective west, the average slavic subhuman is just currency to you. Ukrainian authorities are on their 9th wave of mobilization, snatching people off the streets and literally camping outside of hospitals in order to catch men who go there to get treatment. Your side thinks this is cool and good because you just can't allow russia to win.

If your warmongering side wasn't constantly pushing for escalation and arms shipments, the two sides would've negotiated a deal a year ago when the frontline froze.

So, if you are willing to fight to the last ukrainian just to stick it to Putin, go there yourself. I did not want this war, i do not cheer for it, i do not wish to see it escalate. You do.

[–] 50gp@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

Russia can always preserve their military by going home, otherwise they can continue slowly but surely demilitarising themselves

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

an unwinnable war

Buddy I got some bad news for you

[–] Navaryn@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lmao, Ukraine's greater counteroffensive supposed to free crimea resulted in a russian advance. They threw a punch and hurt themselves while doing it

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The splattered guts of Russian commandos certainly did a lot of damage to Kyiv. Aesthetically speaking.

When Ukraine is ready to free Crimea, you'll know it. Until then, have fun targeting civilians, and not even being able to kill them most of the time.

[–] Navaryn@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 2 years ago

30k russians walked into kiev and retreated with minimal losses, it's not the own you think it is.

And Ukraine has been claiming that this was the offensive to liberate crimea for the last six months. They committed their élite western trained brigades and the most modern equipment that was given to them, including the famous leopards. This is what their "being ready" looks like, and it barely put a dent into the outermost lines of russian defences

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago

He's almost certainly already there