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Seriously though, the USA is virtually always bad.

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No the question was is there a time when the US was objectively good. You used WW2 as an example. And then ignored all the completely heinous shit the US did during WW2.

[–] Lochat@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

SIR, MY PUBLIC EDUCATION HISTORY CLASS SAID WE WERE HEROES AFTER FORCING ME TO SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLIEGANCE EVERY MORNING, HOW DARE YOU QUESTION DROPPING NUKES ON CIVILIANS, PARTICULARLY THE SECOND ONE WHERE JAPAN'S SURRENDER ALREADY WENT FROM INEVIETABLE TO UNDENIABLE AFTER THE FIRST. I AM A HERO BY VIRTUE OF BEING BORN IN AMERICA. A "FEW" HORRIFIC, CIVILIAN MASS MURDERS IS MY DEFINITION OF OBJECTIVELY GOOD.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

But it can still be objectively good they joined even taking into account the atrocities. It doesn't need to be all good to be good over all.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

I disagree. A Soviet victory without US involvement would have been objectively better.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

They weren't objectively good though, as has been explained to you. "Even accounting the atrocities" is the thing that makes them not objectively good.
Learn what words mean please

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Whether something is good or not is inherently subjective, dingus