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"Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier," Zelenskyy said in a Telegram message early Saturday.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy defiantly declared Saturday that his countrymen “will not give their land to occupiers,” after Donald Trump suggested that a peace deal would include some “swapping” of territories with Russia.

“The answer to Ukraine’s territorial question is already in the constitution of Ukraine,” Zelenskyy said in a message on Telegram early Saturday. “No one will and no one can deviate from it. Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier.”

His comments came after Trump announced on Truth Social that a long-awaited meeting with Vladimir Putin had been scheduled for next Friday in Alaska.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Now we are spying who has downvoted? Cool.

when it comes to calling out people who disagree that Russia should fuck off, I'll call out Nazi supporting scum all day.

Russia does not need to save face because they are the ones that invaded illegally. to the world their face is rotting and half gone leaving a bleached white skull. you know, like the ones on the SS uniforms.

[–] npdean@lemmy.today -4 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Now Russians are Nazis lol. USA has invaded more countries than any other modern country but Russia gets called a Nazi and not them.

How does Russia not need to save face? They have to prove to their public and allies thaf the war was worth it and they gained something. Same thing with Ukraine that defending and fighting for so long was not just to end up giving land. NATO needs to maintain the illusion of having the greatest military to ever exist.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (6 children)

They have to prove to their public and allies thaf the war was worth it

Yeah, all these bombed hospitals and kindergartens must be worth stealing some land.

Sound logic here.

[–] npdean@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am not saying it is worth it. I am saying they have to make it seem worth it.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do they now?

Thug came to your house, punched you in your face and raped your wife. You definitely should give him one room so it seems for him it was worth punching and raping.

[–] npdean@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are not understanding what I am saying. I am saying that Putin needs to explain to his country why the war is stopped and what was the benefit of it. Zelensky needs to show the same thing.

I am not talking about what they do about territories.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Putin needs to explain to his country why the war is stopped

🤣 Of course he does sweetie, just like he did why he attacked Ukraine.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Npdean is not saying this is what SHOULD happen, they are staying that's Putin's perspective.

It's not an endorsement of Russia. It's just an opinion on what Putin will or will not accept in any deal put before him

(At least that's how I'm reading this exchange)

Npdean, do you personally agree that Russia SHOULD fuck off back home immediately. That Ukraine not be made to give up a single bloody thing at all. And that this entire war is entirely Russia's fault and they bear all responsibility for this happening?

I'm asking because I'm assuming you would agree, but I obviously can't know that without you saying it

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

At least that's how I'm reading this exchange

No, just read the guy commenting history, there is more.

Quite a few Russian new accounts have been set up recently.

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