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There is also signal-FOSS as an alternative to signal and Molly
Signal-FOSS
https://www.twinhelix.com/apps/signal-foss/
A fork of Signal for Android with proprietary Google binary blobs removed. Uses OpenStreetMap for maps and a websocket server connection, instead of Google Maps and Firebase Cloud Messaging.
add the repo to your app store to F-droid basic
https://fdroid.twinhelix.com/fdroid/repo/
The twinhelix repo is in the droidify and neostore repo list.
Similarly, there's Signal-Cli. Normally, Signal only allows signups from smartphones, which is weird, because not all smartphones can run privacy-preserving OSes while pretty much anything can run Linux. This one is the only client I've seen that allows desktop signup. IDK if they broke it now, but worked a while ago.
Why the fuck is signal using Google maps
I'm a bit confused. It says it connects to Signal's servers. Does this mean if I use Molly, I can still talk to people who are only using Signal?
yes, you can still use signal, molly and signal-foss. I have signal on my desktop and some of my family have molly and some signal-Foss.
The signal servers are primarily hosted on AWS with redundancies on Azure or Google Cloud. Molly and Siganl-FOSS use these too.
The official Android app generally uses the proprietary Google Play Services, although it is designed to be able to work without them.
Hence we use the signal-FOSS and Molly on our phones that do not have any google services.
Like any AOSP rom, Lineage, there are no google play services.
Its the google firebase that manages push notifications that seems to be the main privacy issue.
MollySocket allows getting signal notifications via UnifiedPush, not google firebase,
https://github.com/mollyim/mollyim-android
It's not letting me register. When I have my VPN turned off it can't conbect to servers, and when I have it turned on I get swamped with recaptchas and the veriification code doesn't send