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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

they wont be powerhouses if they keep voting for the gop.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They weren't going to be powerhouses regardless, but yes, voting for Republicans is fucking their economies. But there's nothing thats going to make Des Moines the San Francisco of the plains, nor Cincinnati the San Diego of the Midwest . The great lakes region is slowly rebuilding from the catastrophic loss of manufacturing. Coal isn't coming back and there's not much else for money in west Virginia.

Some of these cities might rise again someday, but there's a reason people dream of the west coast and not Minneapolis or Chicagoland (though Chicagoland does rock, and so do Cleveland and Minnesota)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago

its most like the vicinity of Ports which have the greatest economic value, you arnt getting that a middle of nowhere state. plus other things like arable land for farming, the climate, the jobs.

[–] haloduder@thelemmy.club 2 points 5 days ago

I agree. California has a great geographical advantage, but it's not what makes the state so attractive to live in.

People don't like a cloistered lifestyle unless they've lived in it their entire lives. This means that new people considering moving to 'flyover states' have to contend with the local tribe that has been conned into thinking abortion kills babies and immigrants are sent by the devil.

It's extremely difficult to break this trend, but I think we should be doing what we can to reach those who didn't have the opportunities we did.