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The Trump administration has come under mounting pressure from the president’s make America great again (Maga) base to release files on the case, including a supposed list of Epstein’s influential clients.

Trump, in response, has variously dismissed the existence of such files or said they were invented by Obama and members of his administration, including James Comey, the former FBI director, and Joe Biden, vice-president in the Obama administration.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I’ll be blunt: the fact that Obama did NOTHING when I’m fairly fucking positive there was a LOT of intelligence indicating orangeboi was the Manchurian Candidate is utterly damning. He was so fucking concerned about optics that he refused to move when a nascent existential danger with hostile external support was clearly rearing its head.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

He was so fucking concerned about optics

To be fair the media went apeshit because he wore a tan suit and used mustard on a sandwich!
With Trump it's like: "Oh and Trump sexually assaults women willy-nilly because he thinks he is entitled to it. But that's OK because that's just who he is."

If Obama had pushed for Trump to be arrested and accused on treason, USA might have ended up in civil war.
That task was not for Obama to do, it was for the judicial and security services. And yes they failed, possibly because security services are generally overwhelmingly right wing.

That said, I would have loved to see Trump in an Orange jump suit, he 100% deserves to be imprisoned for the rest of his life.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Then Trump was voted out 4 years later and voted back in again in 2024. People want a corrupt authoritarian ruling over them. Or at least they prefer that to a black lady.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago

an indian lady, but they see all brown as black people.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Not even sure the black part is relevant. They also voted for trump over a white lady in 2016.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago

with the help of russian interference, and comey who knowingly did this.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Refused to move? What did you expect him to do?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

He could have gone to his old reliable drone strike.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't be the first time Obama assassinated an American citizen,

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, and trump was outside the us around that time at least once. Oh how yesterdays horrors are today's wistful could have beens.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So this really is Obama’s fault?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don’t blame him for making the joke at orangeboi’s expense that evidently formed the kernel of spite and rage that made him decide to go for it.

I DO blame him for not taking the threat he posed seriously. Especially considering this is the standard dynamic between our two parties - one follows the rules and conventions and etiquette and expected decorum and wrings their hands about not being able to do something… and the other one doesn’t fucking care and just does it anyways.

So: yes.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is why Democrats lose elections Any excuse to cannibalize ourselves.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Democrats have made it clear they don't even have room for democratic socialists which is fair enough, they're liberals.

They just don't get to also whine and bitch about solidarity when socialists criticize them for the laziness and crimes.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

They just don’t get to also whine and bitch about solidarity when socialists criticize them for the laziness and crimes.

What do you mean by "laziness and crimes"? You can't simultaneously believe in democratic socialism and gloat when you help bring Trump to power. Not without being entirely inauthentic.

[–] Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)