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If we had to torture and murder millions of innocent children to stop global warming would that be okay? (thelemmy.club)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) by DominatorX1@thelemmy.club to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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EDIT Ok so it's just the trolly problem.

EDIT2 : AHA War Games 1983. "The only winning move is not to play." (We might call this the final product of a lot of smart philosophical digestion, because it's a famous movie). There's always the perfectly valid option to ditch the riddle. (Because maybe the riddle is dumb, or maybe the riddle is no better than a thousand others, utilitywise )

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

we're already torturing and murdering millions of innocent children in gaza, africa and southeast asia and we're actively enabling climate change to maintain american dominance; is that okay?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Which is ironically undermining American dominance

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

only because of gaza and even then only because of tiktok. after all: we've been murdering millions of across the entire world to maintain our comfort and none of it got anywhere near as much attention as it does now because of social media platforms that were not controlled by our oligarchy. ie tiktok.

emphasis is "were not controlled" because tiktok is very much under control now.

[–] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago

I have only tortured children as a passenger in an automobile, using flatulance and automatic window locks. I have not murdered anyone. I have never used ticktalk.

It irritates me a lot when people use 'we' and 'our' in contexts that include me, when they do not apply to me.

So to rephrase your first comment in this chain:

The american government, via israeli and other proxy and puppet armies they have created, are already torturing and murdering millions of innocent children in gaza, africa and southeast asia and unchecked capitalist corporations, both american and international, are actively enabling climate change to maintain american military dominance to serve as their shield from the people who resist; is that okay?

The answer is: No.

I have not been comfortable for a long time, figuratively and literally, long before I ever heard about gaza, since before I was considered an adult, a few weeks prior to 9/11.

I have protested in many ways since then, with several years incarcerated because of it.

I have lived an impoverished life by american standards, although not the same level of poverty as other places, by several orders of magnitude for some places.

It is the billionaire kleptocracy that is controlling the country I am trapped in, that is causing climate change. Not me, with my lack of using fossil fuels whenever I had the choice, eating locally grown as much as available, avoiding supporting the worst companies such as big oil and the process and/or fast food complex.

Sorry for the rant. Like I said, I really hate when people say 'we' and it includes me.