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[โ€“] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've seen all these complaints for the product owner/manager doing nothing and maybe I have different experiences, but the one in my team seems to say least somewhat keep up with what the business wants and what the developers can accomplish. Albeit still just a middle manager that doesn't do much actual work. The scrum master on the other hand does literally nothing but pretend to act as a bad babysitter for the team and doesn't provide anything. Can't truly grasp what he gets paid for other than having a scrum master certificate (presumably writing his name in crayon on it).

Good product managers are worth their weight in gold. Most aren't good.

Good scrum masters are worth their weight in lead.