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[โ€“] DandomRude@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I highly doubt that this will get anything moving: In 2020 the European Court of Justice already invalidated the Privacy Shield agreement with the US for precisely this reason.

The majority of EU-companies however just continued to use US services despite the fact that user data could be accessed by the US government at any time, contrary to EU data protection regulations, and even without a court order (patriot act and such). No effective penalties - or more like no penalties whatsoever - were imposed on those companies that simply ignored the ruling.

The end result was that the EU entered into a new agreement with the US, the EU-US Data Privacy Framework (DPF) โ€“ just a new name: nothing has changed. European users' data on US servers is still not protected in accordance with European law.

This statement only confirms what has long been known - nothing has changed.

So I can't see why the EU would change course now, unfortunately. They could have years ago for the same reason but didn't because, well, money...

[โ€“] Zezzoz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's going to happen on some scale eventually. The earlier we get the USA traitors off our data the better.

[โ€“] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, they cant really blow up their entire infrastructure. They would be smart to force industry to cycle things out and give them a deadline but it will be expensive and slow going and the second the conservatives get power they will undo it all.

[โ€“] Zwiebel@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I was thinking of government internal software moving away from microsoft. Denmark, a German state and a French city are already doing it

[โ€“] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, that's only right and sensible.

Unfortunately, things are moving too slowly here in Germany, but at least one federal state, Schleswig-Holstein, plans to switch to Linux and LibreOffice in the fall.

I'm not aware of any other plans in other federal states or at the national level.

Bavaria, a deeply conservative federal state, even uses Palantir, which is just absurd.