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While I want them to release as much information as possible, this list seems misleading. The article says this is a list of people who flew on the plane, and many of them are not accused of any wrongdoing.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I’d be quite surprised if Cate Blanchett was looking for erotic massages from underage girls. The list of people who ever flew on the plane is going to be massive, and not all of them will be the type of people who he allowed into his criminal conspiracy. It’s just like how many more people attended a Diddy Party than attended a Diddy Party After Dark.
Much like with a diddy party, part of the question then becomes “how many of them didnt attend a diddy party after dark because they knew what happened after dark?”. How many of these people might not have been molesters, but still knew about the shit that was going on? How many of them saw the underage girls around without actually being involved with them being there at all?
I work in a very affluent environment environment, and its a relatively open secret that 10-20 years ago it wasnt uncommon for adult house parties to knowingly invite local underage highschool girls (for what Im sure were not good reasons)
There are a lot of sides to this. Some of them may have seen things and been oblivious, others may have seen things that registered later, while still others may have known about the crimes. That is why we need more than a flight log list.
I grew up in a very affluent family, and attended all sorts of political and corporate events in my youth along with my cousins. None of us were exploited or invited there to be exploited—our families thought it was good for us to meet influential and powerful people because they (foolishly) believed those people represented the best of American society. In some cases they were, in other cases they were later found out to be criminals. The thing that makes these people so dangerous is that they have many different modes, and are masters of switching masks depending on the audience.
If this played out like a procedural crime drama, the DoJ would be interviewing everyone on these flight logs to figure out who is connected to crimes and how much everyone knew at the time. That will never happen, since all of these people have lawyers on retainer and won't answer anything.
I mean, even if they are innocent and were totally unaware of any wrongdoing, they still wouldn't willfully open themselves up to this questioning.
The way I read it this list means pretty much jack all. It's just names mentioned in a court case - not a client nor fly list.
I won't be surprised if there would be significant overlap, but without the actual list there's little to say.
Totally agree. Epstein had thousands of contacts in his lifetime. The “willing to fly on a plane” list is likely going to be larger than the “willing to fuck a kid” list, even though some people will be on both.
Newsweek? Misleading? Never.