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I was encouraged to create an governance thread for discussion dedicated to community focused around the db0 lemmy instance users. Please see the linked post for context. I decided to leave my original post for potential discussion including voices of outsiders.

In short, not to duplicate information - I'd like to ask our community the following questions:

  1. Is the mod's behaviour of proactively banning users from moderated communities without clear violation in accordance to the instance rules, especially The Golden Rules, which call for "cooperative participation"?
  2. If yes, what actions can be proposed to be taken next to alleviate the issue, not only with the two directly mentioned communities in the linked post, but also others that potentially fall a victim to this kind of mod misbehaviour?

It should also be appropriate to hear the stance of the involved moderators, why they do what they do, but obviously it is up to them to provide clarifications.

Thank you in advance, I love you all.

governance type: sense check

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[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I try to avoid that place, it has a lot of toxic people there and most of the ones there are just upset about being banned, they don't care that it's actually for a good reason or not, they just want to be unbanned so they can do whatever they want. My comment about the reasons largely fall on deaf ears. And also since many of the people there are the people who have been brigading even if they know and understand they will double down because it's in their interest too.

Also by the way I saw your comment there and just want to clarify that I go by Ze/Zir pronouns I don't go by she/her, I tolerate it sometimes but being called by she/her gives me mild dysphoria and ickyness, so I'd prefer not to be.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fair, and I am trying to edit my posts. Please lemme know if I missed any!

[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Thank you!! I'm still learning neopronouns and proper use of them. :3

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just a random thought, its a shame flairs aren't better implemented (and available lemmy-wide) so they could be used for preferred pronouns, that would be great.

Sorry pretty far OT, just thinking that would make communication here even easier

Yeah it would be nice. Display names work well enough, but it would be better to have flairs since they can be more noticeable.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I try to avoid that place,

Smart. YPTB seema to be flooded with the same kind of morons who think they should be able to say whatever they want without repercussions. I'm blocking it myself after making this comment.

[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's a good idea to be able to call out bad moderation practices but I think that bellyaching and free speech entitlement needs to be culled way more aggressively to make it actually work, otherwise it'll just be filled with the worst people all the time complaining that they got banned, even though it was for more than good reasons.

It cannot be neutral, it has to have some level of bias to balance out the natural bias of moderation disproportionately affecting those who really deserve it, otherwise it'll be a majority of people who really deserve it commenting and shit-talking there, and they'll talk over a lot of the real issues and make them harder to discuss, or worse seem less credible.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I used to be head mod of a 1M+ subreddit some years ago. Believe me - I get it.

We mitigate all we can, but there will always be sore losers in public forums. YPTB was probably made with good intentions, calling out obvious tankie bullshit and the like, but it's just turned into cesspool.