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It would probably be more if there weren't so many Linux gatekeepers that tell people to "go back to Windows/Apple" when they ask a questions.
Did this happen to you in particular? Most tech oriented people (and Linux users by extensions) are generally chill
I have not found that to be the case.
Try and tell them that your average user cannot, or will not, use the command line , and you'll both get called morons.
Okay but I've been using Linux for several years and I've never had to use the command line. I have used it a couple times, but it was by choice, not necessity.
You do not have to use the command line to use most Linux distros. I think it’s a good idea to learn, but it’s no longer a necessity.
Who is this mythical average user I keep hearing about?
I've never had a problem forcing people at work - even those with very limited IT knowledge - to run things from cli in windows.
For years in one place I worked the IT support first line solution was to tell all users to force a gp update from the windows cli. They'd point to a nice little how to guide with screenshots and everything. I don't know if any of the thousands of people working there were the all important average user either though, probably not.
Well you both would be making assumptions about people wouldnt you?
Yep, there it is.
That did not take long at all
Haha, Don't offer people windows 11 , even in jest. It's clearly the opposite of "being excellent" to them ( rule 3).
Gotta love mods.
The folks who show up looking to genuinely learn something, who have a goal to accomplish, I'll gladly help them out. I'll go learn something I don't know yet so I can teach it to them. Willingness to learn is the most respectable thing I can think of. All that "EAUGH Linux isn't user friendly enough" shit is unwillingness to learn. "Why doesn't this perfectly conform to my bad habits?" Because you haven't died in a fire yet. Common mistake for people like you.
Windows 11 is nowhere near as terrible as people here make it out to be.
Try to run it on 4/8 gb RAM (officially supported configuration and many brand new laptops still are sold with 8gb soldered) and experience how worse is compared to w10
Its not terrible, objectively speaking, but as someone who uses it for work - I don't care to use it at home at all. The only Windows instances at home are VMs running W10 LTSC, and they are strictly for specialty software (vehicle diagnostics stuff) or legal reasons (my lawyer requires Adobe Acrobat for PDFs). I have zero physical Windows machines otherwise.
I just disabled all the annoying stuff, uninstalled Onedrive, turned off all the news and stock prices on the lock screen etc.
A bit annoying I had to do that, but whatever.
No its just a common trend I see when I look for answers to questions I have about aspects of Linux. I work in tech and know lots of tech people. Chill is one of the few terms I would use for them hahaha.
It all depends on the context to be honest. I’ve found that tech people, outside of professional contexts, are generally a lot more helpful. Things are different at work.