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[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That « just » carries a lot… and 10k a month brut is far from making anyone a millionaire. They have expenses, taxes… that’s a confortable-ish living wage.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your assertions carry nothing

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That’s a new way to discuss… nice…

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can’t “discuss” with someone who baldly asserts that musicians need to be making nearly double an average engineer’s salary in order to barely achieve comfort. You’re absolutely trolling if you expect someone to engage with that

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Double an engineer’s salary?! Man… My brut is riiiiight below that… but musicians would not be employees so they would need to add other costs to their incomes so that they reach a similar net revenue… Locally we consider that 47% of what you invoice reaches your pocket - not accounting for expenses like equipment which is crazy expensive in the music industry… is 4.7k an outrageous salary ?! For an engineer ?! Or even an artist?

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Median engineer’s income in your country is 58k. Lots of information available for you for free on google

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

First, thanks for the doxxing.

Second, using statbel instead of the cancerous google AI gives another figure of 104k yearly for engineering positions (in IT but other industries aren’t so far behind).

And that still has fuckall to do with what would be a fair wage… and still doesn’t account for costs accounting on top of the salary which they would incur on top of the salary…

Are you so insisting because you deem artists needs a shit wage? Are they less deserving than engineers?

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You’re welcome! It’s very easy to “dox” someone who uses random non english words, just so you know

Anyway, your easily disprovable misinformation has been presented. Congratulations. Are we just about settled here, then?

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What disprovable information ? You took wrong figures and entirely ignored anything related to costs beside wage… you sidetracked any point on what constitutes a fair wage beside you general « double an engineer’s wage »…

What’s settled here?

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What’s settled here?

You and me!

You sound confident in your assessment of the facts, yes? I am equally confident that any reader will easily be able discern what your assessment is worth.

In this manner, we have reached the end of our discussion, yes? We are thusly settled?

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No you crazy person… but should it bring you peace of mind whatever…

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

How do you mean no? Is there some further statement you feel you have left unsaid? This is a public website my friend, please feel welcome to express yourself