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Realizing Arch isn't for me after updating broke VLC (lemmy.sdf.org)

submitted 4 days ago by makeitwonderful@lemmy.sdf.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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I realized my VLC was broke some point in the week after updating Arch. I spend time troubleshooting then find a forum post with replies from an Arch moderator saying they knew it would happen and it's my fault for not wanting to read through pages of changelogs. Another mod post says they won't announce that on the RSS feed either. I thought I was doing good by following the RSS but I guess that's not enough.

I've been happily using Arch for 5 years but after reading those posts I've decided to look for a different distro. Does anyone have recommendations for the closest I can get to Arch but with a different attitude around updating?

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[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

that's exactly how updates should work in every desktop distro. as an option of course.

systemd made it possible to install updates on shutdown.
packagekit enabled kde software to automatically obtain and prepare the updates.
plasma does the final touch nowadays to ask you on the reboot/shutdown dialog whether you want to install them.

Basically all the system is in place, with code from widely used parties. packagekit can even integrate with your filesystem to make a snapshot before install. It's wonderful. yet, it seems as if only fedora supports this full setup right now? or is there anything else?

[–] heythatsprettygood@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've tried quite a few distros (openSUSE, Ubuntu, Solus, Arch, so on) and none seem to offer this feature. It's a shame, as it's quite useful to have since updating a live system can sometimes cause some trouble. Even just the updating from Discover can be broken on some systems (I know openSUSE at the very least acts a bit funny when it comes to PackageKit, I think Arch as well).

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 6 hours ago

I've been told that opensuse tumbleweed has it. I've also read a suse forum post saying leap 16 will support offline updates, releasing in January, so they could be the first to support all of this with fs snapshots

Even just the updating from Discover can be broken on some systems

if you didn't enable offline updates in systemsettings, then it'll do roughly the same as you would in the terminal, so that's not unexpected

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Fedora and Bazzite both do it.