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Why doesn't Avatar (2009) get more credit for being pretty based politically? (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 years ago by wombat@hexbear.net to c/movies@hexbear.net

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Blah blah Avatar, 3D sucks blue cat people DAE no cultural impact?? Can you remember any character names??

but seriously it was bold as fuck for someone like James Cameron to make something so blatantly anti-US-military at a time when literally the entirety of Hollywood was united in jerking off American imperialism. It was not the least bit subtle and that makes it all the more impressive that Cameron was able to make a pointed takedown of Iraq-era militarism on such a scale.

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Because people are really bad at reading into media

Even when it isn't subtle, they just go "This is entertainment and has no bearing on my actual life or beliefs"

That's why most of the discussion about the movie was that it retread the same ground as Pocahontas (which aside from the colonialism angle, isn't that similar) and not the actual themes of the film

[–] Judge_Juche@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

Ya, that's also Bong Joon-ho's eternal struggle with American audiences. Like his movies aren't subtle at all, but all Americans see is cold train go zoom.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago

"Boy howdy, that was fucked up how that rich family had their lives ruined because of their own actions and inability to show compassion for others. I'm glad the poor family got what was coming to them"

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago

remember all those lib celebrity tweets after Parasite won Best Picture about how Parasite showed the importance of coming together in the time of Trump

[–] Neckbeard_Prime@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

The Starship Troopers paradox. When confronted with the image of Neil Patrick Harris in SS garb at a Nazi funeral, the average American media consumer blurts out, "wow, the good guys in this space bug killing movie sure are snappy dressers."

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

all but stating out loud humans started the war

deliberate fascist propaganda about how weak and stupid the enemy is

countless lives lost to achieve a relatively minor victory

Americans: "Hahaha, it's afraid!"

[–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

One of my favorite parts about Starship Troopers is that the movie starts chronologically after the ending, showing people dying horrifically. Even when the movie ends on a relative high note, it outright tells you (via the beginning) that it doesn't matter and everyone's fucked.