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One day at a time. Isn't that what the 12 Step groups say? People in this thread saying this won't do anything. You have to start somewhere. Don't be defeatist. Get involved. Unless you are just trolling to keep people from doing anything.
Doomer do-nothings are so incredibly frustrating. I get the frustration, but spreading apathy is not useful. Authoritarianism flourishes when apathy takes root among the populace.
Real doing something is a long term boycott. Not a one day thing. Real doing something is labor organization, unions allow collaboration at a higher level, and allow you to strike back at the throat.
Even protesting at a leftist capital is doing more than a single day's blackout.
Go exercise your second amendment by a conservative senator's house if you really want to do something (and I don't mean that as a shoot them euphemism. Make them uncomfortable.)
The organization that organized the economic blackout has longer-term boycotts planned in the coming weeks. This is just the opening salvo. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
You're not getting "good". A one day pause is not an effective strategy in any sense. It's slacktivism. It'll placate people who would have otherwise taken actual action.
You say placate, I say practice. People who have never protested a day in their lives aren't going to start out with a multi-month blackout. They need to get used to protesting by starting small.
That is literally not how it works with people. They will feel like they did their job and move on. They will do this instead of actually helping. There isn't any escalation. There's a week (not long enough) hit on specific companies and other "days".
I guess we'll both stay tuned and see whose prognosticating is right here.
This is verifiable stuff. Lol. You clowns will believe whatever makes you feel better about yourself without any regard for reality.
Don't let nothing be the enemy of good either. That's all i need saying.
You need everyone in line for longer ones. Single day ones only serve to make the companies more prepared for longer ones.
Let them prepare! Effective organized protest and resistance isn't something that happens overnight. It can sometimes take months or even years of concerted effort.
George Washington would tell you to stand outside the homes of the representatives and demand action.
This is it. If we want to have any effect it needs to be much longer than a day. One month would make a statement. You could even cave out food. You could also have people cancel their endless list of subscriptions or just scale back their lifestyle for a greater effect than a one day pause.
you are doing nothing.
this is not resistance, it's embarrassing. you all deserve what you get.
There really is this need to feel like people are doing something even if they're doing nothing.
Single day boycotts are completely ineffectual for a variety of reasons, reason #1 being the vast majority are either unaware or apathetic, #2 being even those who participate aren't skipping particpation entirely, they just shift their economic participation to the day before or the day after.
So the end result is a zero sum game, but when you tell people that, they respond with "At least I'm trying!" 🤷♂️
Low effort virtue signalling
Yup. I see this in Portland ALL the time. We're kind of protest central, but nobody is willing to take the protest to the people who need to see it.
"You realize everyone in Portland agrees with you, who are you protesting?"
Nobody outside Portland cares what people are protesting here, it was a joke 35 years ago when H.W. Bush called us "Little Beirut".
https://www.wweek.com/news/2018/12/06/rip-george-bush-heres-how-portland-protested-him-in-the-1990s-and-earned-the-name-little-beirut/
Americans have not had to protest like this in many many decades. That is it's been "good enough" for a large part of the population to not really do anything, so there is no system that people can tap into like in France. So thinking that you are going to get a million+ people to go into the streets and shut everything down for a few weeks isn't realistic.
American protest opposition also has a great response to these gatherings by getting them to turn into riots so there is justification for military style responses. Which makes people on the fence hesitant. Getting people to dip their toe in the lake of resistance is the best way forward. It's slow, it looks silly and limiting but if it works it emboldens more people to do more.
Stopping for one day isn't a protest.
"That is it’s been “good enough” for a large part of the population"
There's the selfish 'as long as it's not me attitude'.
You also think it was 'good enough' and didn't need to protest is even more telling and comfirms my view.
You were OK with having no healthcare, mass incarceration and de facto slavery in that system.
Authoritarian police with an unrivaled murder rate, mass drug abuse and homelessness.
ANY of those things would be reason for a population to revolt and resist.
The US simply doesn't know better and think this is normal and mistakenly believe other countries are worse off.
Imagine being so pacified that they take all this.
And yes, real resistance is hard and difficult.
They are not going to give you anything by asking nicely.
The US population is like an abused housewife that stays with her bully would rather not make waves in the hope it will get better and doesn't get another beating. If she doesn't resist and leave she doesn't deserve saving.
Yes, Americans have been pacified - though I think most western countries' populations are to some extent. And because of that pacification they are not going to jump up and do the really difficult stuff of resistance until it starts effecting them more - this I agree with. But your argument or your complaint sounds like if Americans don't jump from pacification to doing the hard stuff nothing else matters. It's all or nothing in your mind.
But that isn't how it works, small protests and boycotts on large scales do have some impact. They also demonstrate to Americans that resistance does work and possible get them to do more. If there is small successes then larger, more difficult resistance has the chance to grow and be sustained.
should these protest happen sooner and more often, sure but they didn't and that is arguments for history - So maybe this administration will actually prompt more people to start doing more uncomfortable actions to change the country for the better?
"But that isn’t how it works"
Right, the entirety of history is wrong.
From the stormers of the Bastille to Che.
Finally this guy here can tell you what is needed.
Babysteps! I mean where's the urgency? Not like some regime dudes throwing sieg heils and introducing fascism at rapid speed can go irreversably wrong right?
If only occupied Europe would've stopped eating bratwurst and apple strudel in the 40's, all that unpleasantness wouldn't have needed to happen.
And besides there are plenty of things you can try before you show no mercy and have a mass singing of cumbaya.
I'm ending this hopeless convo here and leave you to it.
I'll be sure to watch how it ends, got the nachos, dip and everything.
So what are you doing?
Are you organizing people to go out and protest or are you just being a keyboard warrior? You know that phrase put up or shut up? Why are you not out pulling people in to a long protest? If you are why are you not taking this time to get more people in your protest? If you are not then you are no better than all these people that you're bitching about.
You're right this is a conversation that is going no where you're just here to bitch and really not do anything. Later.
How's your short term memory? I've explained before.
1 European, not protesting for a country that has been nothing but a pain to the world.
2 I was just ridiculing a silly movement in a thread online, and without intention I even gave good advise (which you don't deserve).
Even then it's clear you're all hopeless and clueless.
Like I said, it's for the best that you're circling the drain, won't lose any sleep over it.
For real. Most Americans have probably never even participated in a “buy nothing” day, much less a pocket book protest against a government.
I don’t see what’s wrong with starting with one day, letting people get used to the concept, then dialing up the frequency once word of mouth has spread.
One day will do nothing. This is slacktivism. Every one of them is a useful fool for the fascists.
pacified slave mentality.
i despise you all and will enjoy seeing this accomplish nothing.
i have no respect for slaves without will, you don't deserve saving
Good, I'm hard, keep going
oh you're getting kinky now?
You're not supposed to enjoy this!
That's a caning!
I'm sure it will do something, I'm sure it'll lead to overstock at large stores and force all the low wage workers to suffer a little extra. That's what it will do.
They show up on every single issue and I want to just interview these people and post it online. Like who are these fucking losers
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