In November last year, Bluesky had more than 3 million daily users in the US alone. According to fedidb, the Fediverse as a whole has 1.5 million monthly users globally.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Damn given that Bluesky has millions to burn on marketing I would say the Fediverse is clowning on Bluesky seeing as it the Fediverse has a $0 marketing budget.

For all the money and prestige Bluesky has access to, they still have only managed to double our size? That is kind of sad really, it must be because they keep adding things people actually don't want.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's double our monthly size in a single day, ignoring all Bluesky users outside of America, and using their stats from several months that ago when they have probably grown since.

So yeah, they are way bigger than us.

Bunch of spambots there though, but that goes for Fedi as well. So making a proper comparison is impossible. No doubt they have way more users than Mastodon though.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

I mean, again this doesn't surprise me, Bluesky not only has the money (and promises of future money if things go well) to go viral, it has to in order to survive.

If Bluesky grew at the rate Mastodon grew in the beginning it would already be dead and abandoned by investors, that isn't a knock on Mastodon it is a statement about how problematically unstable and fragile the traditional approach of building for profit corporate social media spaces is that Bluesky embodies.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago

Bluesky could really do us a favour and turn on ActivityPub

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Just FYI, fedidb is wildly wrong on the numbers lately. You may want a different source.

For example, there are instances on GoToSocial that have 2-3 users showing up with thousands on fedidb EX: https://fedidb.org/network/instance/s.scintilla.social. And some lemmy servers show up multiple times on their statistics.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Huh. Do you know of a better alternative?

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wish I did! I know lemmy has https://lemmyverse.net/ which seems accurate. Maybe others can chime in?

Ive been keeping my eye on fedidb for a time, after they stated we had over 12 million users...then it dropped off to 11 almost overnight. It did some retroactive counting. I then looked at software in general and found they are not counting things correctly. Some things overestimating wildly (like the example above) and some its not indexing at all.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess there's also Fediverse Observer: https://fediverse.observer/stats

They put the whole Fediverse at 1.38M active, so a bit lower than Fedidb. Might be more accurate.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Interesting. I hope so.

I cant find GotoSocial so I cant check the above server I used as an example. However I do have a couple of servers. Let me see if they show up.

EDIT: Looks like its MUCH more accurate on one of the servers I maintain. However im seeing a couple of servers not showing up:

The # of active members is correct on the mastodon server.
Peertube server is correct as well.
Pixelfed is correct.
Lemmy.world has 17.8K users / month on the sidebar and the website states: 17841 users. So that also looks correct.
However the GoToSocial site that is my families is not showing up. And its definitely federated.
s.scintilla.social also does not show up on the site. Again leading me to believe it might be something to do with GoToSocial here.

So it might still be having issues with GoToSocial OR GoToSocial might be the odd one out. It is much better though.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago

It seems GoToSocial comes with some reservations against being crawled, which is why fedidb had to update their robots.txt. So it might not be included here by design.

Or at least that's the impression I get from this comment section: https://piefed.social/post/496750

It'll be interesting to see what's going on with today's bump in users. I'm afraid you might be right about the reliability, but then again the GoToSocial instance you linked earlier has now been removed.