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Especially in imperial countries where the kids have to deliberately go along with many wrong history lessons?

I don't have kids, Matt Christman having one just makes me wonder how he and other Communist parents do it.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 79 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Teach empathy for people you don't know shrug-outta-hecks

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 56 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's really all it took for me and my siblings. My parents taught us to treat others how we'd like to be treated, respect people that are different, love nature and such, and to think critically about everything. The only way to stay consistent with what we were taught is to help destroy Amerikkka. They weren't 'political' but somehow we all turned out as commies.

My mom was also just very loving and great, growing up with that helped instill an anti-misogynistic mind set. With less misogyny I think it's harder for someone to be tricked by the usual right-wing propaganda.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

With less misogyny I think it's harder for someone to be tricked by the usual right-wing propaganda.

I fully agree. I keep thinking back to my childhood friend. We lived in the same neighbourhood, had the same mutual friends, were in the same classes with the same teachers and same classmates, we had the same hobbies and interests and even went to the same church. But he went right-wing men's-rights insanity and I decidedly did not.

The only major difference was that I have a sister and brother, and he was an only child. He never had to share toys or attention, and he never really interacted (in an age-appropriate way) with girls. Between my sister and her friends, I was interacting (again age-appropriately) with girls all the time. They weren't mysterious and strange creatures to me, they were just other kids. There was one odd moment when my friends was at our house, and some of my sister's friends were over as well to see her. He just had a confused look at seeing me say hi to them, like he was seeing something brand new to science.

[–] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

The only major difference was that I have a sister and brother, and he was an only child. He never had to share toys or attention, and he never really interacted (in an age-appropriate way) with girls.

I have seen this go both ways, people with siblings who grew up having to share ending up resenting it, and only children who loved to share things with their friends

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Real answer right here. Socialism and communism are natural evolutions of empathetic thought.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean even if they don't become commie (which is, realistically, very likely), empathetic socdem, change-from-inside, lib is millions times better than bloodless ghouls like hitchens, applebaum or kamala, who can probably cite something off the dome, and yet are disgusting.

(and empathy is an action not thoughts and prayers, if you see passed out drunk or homeless person, at least ask them if they need something, not just pass by and be like "our society is so sad")

[–] HexaSnoot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

cite something off the dome

What does this mean?

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I meant cite some theory from memory, in that knowing theory is not be all end all type of thingy

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This is kinda nonsense to me, Marxist theory is strictly logical, Marx doesn't make emotional or empathetic pleas in Das Kapital or something. Yes, you can be an empathetic communist to great effect, but I don't think its even close to mandatory (and the proof is in how many shitty communists there have been historically, looking at you Beria). The whole point of Marxism is that its in the best interest of everyone, even the bourgeoisie, to apply Marxist theory. After all, if the bourgeoisie allows society to deteriorate their heads will be on platters.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Understanding Marxist theory is a result of logical steps but agreeing with Marxist theory comes from empathy with the working class

Difference between all the Wall St. dipshits that read Marx to better understand how to make more money and bourgeois class traitors

The whole point of Marxism is that its in the best interest of everyone, even the bourgeoisie, to apply Marxist theory. After all, if the bourgeoisie allows society to deteriorate their heads will be on platters

Humans live a pretty short lifespan, it's way more in their interests to suppress a revolution until they can die of old age imo

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

While you're right about Marxism being scientific, and not based in emotion, I think it's important to ask, "Why would Marx care about any of this shit to develop such theory in the first place?" And I think any reasoning that didn't somehow arrive at some conclusion that included empathy would be erroneous. I think that's also true when asked about why any communist is a communist.

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah honestly this and not letting them gobble up capitalist propaganda. Idk how more people don’t just naturally turn out leftist.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Idk how more people don’t just naturally turn out leftist.

They do, but they use the label of "moderate" or "center-right" without having any idea what either of those mean and then they stay home on election day.

US polls for individual issues skew very strongly socdem, and polls don't really ask questions about if someone approves of their current economic system and what they would think would be more ideal, so there isn't really any US-centric data that could even theoretically show that people are more left than socdem en masse.

I'd bet if you polled the US population with the question, "Do you support an economic system where you get to elect/fire your superiors in the workplace, decide via vote how much you get paid, you get partial ownership of the company, and outside investments in corporations are illegal and classified as gambling?" without using the words "socialism, communism, Marxism, etc." that a lot more people than expected would be in favor of that.

The Red Scare just made it so the words "communism, socialism, etc." have become taboo to the older generations, and somewhat also to the younger ones, and the right likes to call literally everything they disagree with "socialism" anyway.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

The propaganda is omnipresent to help prevent that