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[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anyone knows what that allergic reaction thing references? Sounds interesting

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 155 points 3 months ago (6 children)

The part about them being too closely related to Humans sounds like BS, but there is a mushroom that is perfectly safe the first few times you eat it, and then eventually makes your immune system attack your blood cells.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paxillus_involutus

[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 50 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There's a Paul Stamets video where he talks about how mushrooms are so closely related to humans that we both fight off similar pathogens and that is why they are so useful to us for medicine (penicillin for example.)

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 42 points 3 months ago (3 children)

In the Paul Stamets TED talk, he never says that humans specifically are genetically close to fungi. He said that between all the different kingdoms of life, animals and fungi were more biologically similar than any other two kingdoms.

That definitely explains why we can borrow useful defenses from fungi, like antibiotics, but it's definitely not a reason to believe that our immune systems would have any difficulties differentiating between certain fungi and our own bodies, at least not for reasons related to direct genetic similarities.

[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

You're right, my word choice makes it seem like I was saying fungi and humans are genetically related. Thanks for clarifying.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There's an enormous difference between kingdoms, so being more similar still leaves us very far apart.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

That's true. To even get to the mushroom kingdom you have to jump into a lot of pipes.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah the similarities make sense when you look at sponges and sea lilies and the like, but the difference between a mushroom and a mammal is incredibly vast

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 5 points 3 months ago

Our immune systems can tell the difference between human blood types. Let alone fungus vs human.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

TIL Stamets is named after a real mycologist.

[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking, "he is a real mycologist," before I figured out to whom you were referring.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't know if @Stamets@lemmy.world is a mycologist but he's certainly named after one.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Named after an Astromycologist anyway. I try to distance myself as much as I can from the Union busting real world mushroom man

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Holy shit. That's mildly terrifying...

[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

What other great mushroom facts do you have, mystery man?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

The ol' bait and switch

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

most of it was bullshit. soon as you start down a taxonomy road you're fucked with stupidity. most things in nature are on a spectrum.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most of my friends are also on a spectrum.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago
[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago

Well new fear unlocked, thanks.